Demigods of Olympus

[Testarossa002]

Hello
After about a year of planning, the Demigods revision is here.
Major credits to @GraveDigger84 and @KingTempest for help with some of the calcs.
Without further ado, let's get right into it.
Here is the sandbox for all the demigods with profiles

Spoiler: Basis for Superhuman rating

Demigods are regarded as being at the utmost peak of what the human body is capable of. As such, they should scale to the higher end feats done by humans in the real world.

Will had done any number of ridiculous things since learning he was a son of Apollo. Sure, demigods possessed abilities that pushed the limits of what human bodies were capable of. He’d seen incredible leaps, tumbles, tackles and other feats over the years. At the same time, demigods were all still heartbreakingly mortal, and they could definitely get seriously hurt. As one of the main field medics in camp, Will had seen it firsthand.

The Sun and the Star; Chapter 10
It's also demonstrated through feats, one of which involves Rosamie, a young girl (under 10), who effortlessly defeated a trained mercenary despite having less than a week of combat training.

Rosamie!” Chiron called. “Sword higher, dear!”
The young girl grinned and lifted her blade, intercepting the strike of a security guard’s baton. She smacked her foe across the face with the flat of her blade. “Do we have field trips every week? This is cool!”

The Tower of Nero; Chapter 26

With that out of the way, let me give a summary of scaling

Spoiler: Scaling

Attack Potency

• The Street level demigods scale via the superhuman statements
• The 9-Bs scale to baseline via average monster feats
• The higher 9-Bs scale to Percy's durability
• The 9-As scale to the energy output of a CTG lightning
• The 7-Bs scale to Nico's feat
• The higher 7-Bs scale to 2x the 7-Bs via Percy's water boost multiplier
• The highest 7-Bs scale to Mt Helen's eruption
• The 7-As scale to 10x the higher 7-Bs via Giants scaling
• The highest 7-As scale 3x the 7-As via Nero scaling
• The 6-Cs scale to Jason's feat

Speed

• Average demigods scale to Superhuman
• Transonic demigods scale via Percy's feat
• Supersonic demigods scale via Percy's feat of reacting to bullets
• MHS demigods scale to Jason's feat
• MHS+ demigods scale to Nico's statement

Lifting Strength

• Average demigods scale to Superhuman
• The Class 10s scale to Percy's feat
• The Class 25s scale to 2x the Class 10s
• The Class 50s scale to 4x the Class 10s
• The Class 100s scale to 12x the Class 10s
• The Class Ts scale to baseline value via Giants statement of lifting mountains

Spoiler: Scans

Nico's Statement

Nico reached for the stone arch of the doorway only to shriek as it gave way and hundreds of black beetles crawled over his hand and up his arm. Oh, gods, he’d forgotten what this place was made of! He jerked back hard, too hard, and the backpack crashed into Will. Nico moved with the speed of lightning, whipping around and snatching the front of Will’s hoodie as he started to fall backwards.

The Sun and The Stars; Chapter 39

Water boost Multiplier

‘Fool!’ Atlas screamed gleefully, swatting aside one of Zoë’s arrows. ‘Did you think, simply because you could challenge that petty war god, that you could stand up to me?’ The mention of Ares sent a jolt through me. I shook off my daze and charged again. If I could get to that pool of water I could double my strength.

The Titan's Curse; Chapter 17

Giant's Scaling

He fixed Jason with a look of hatred. “Y ou’ve won nothing, boy. My brothers are rising, and they are ten times as strong as I. We will destroy the gods at their roots! Y ou will die, and Olympus will die with—” The giant lost his grip and fell into the crevice.

The Lost Hero; Chapter 44

That's all
Let me know if clarifications are needed anywhere
I really hope people don't bring up demigods scaling to gods

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Followinggg


Which people scale to nicos MHS+ speed? (Outside gods ofc)

 

[Testarossa002]

Followinggg


Which people scale to nicos MHS+ speed? (Outside gods ofc)

Just Nico tbh
The statement was made while in Tartarus which gives him in an home ground advantage
I don't have any issues with others scaling to it though

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Just Nico tbh
The statement was made while in Tartarus which gives him in an home ground advantage
I don't have any issues with others scaling to it though

Do we know if Nico was stated to have a stat boost in Tartarus? I don’t recall anything like that

 

[GraveDigger84]

W and thanks for the creds

A little more justification for the scaling would be great.

AP looks fine to me.

Not sure about speed though tbh. Was that MHS calc of Percy deflecting a bullet accepted elsewhere? All I see in the comments is it being rejected. Just wondering since previously that feat was calced to be way lower. And the Nico statement could honestly just be a hyperbole. It just doesn't seem concrete enough to justify it being used, imo.

Otherwise, seems good to me

 

[Testarossa002]

Not sure about speed though tbh. Was that MHS calc of Percy deflecting a bullet accepted elsewhere? All I see in the comments is it being rejected. Just wondering since previously that feat was calced to be way lower.

It's supersonic. Not MHS. The CGM said I should just slap the speed of the bullets on it.
MHS comes from Jason reacting to lightning

And the Nico statement could honestly just be a hyperbole. It just doesn't seem concrete enough to justify it being used, imo.

I'm fine with that. He's the only one who scales anyway

 

[GraveDigger84]

It's supersonic. Not MHS. The CGM said I should just slap the speed of the bullets on it.
MHS comes from Jason reacting to lightning

Ah okay, you linked a calc saying it was MHS that's why I was wondering.

I'm fine with that. He's the only one who scales anyway

Tbh that just seems like more reason to not have the rating. Nico being like 500 Mach faster than the other demigods based on something that could just be hyperbole? Doesn't seem right ngl

 

[Ecronicron]

The feat that jason performed was at the beginning of the lost hero, was with no memories. Even after regaining a few of them he went High diff with Enceladus

"He swept his spear sideways, met Jason’s javelin—and
with a snap like a shotgun blast, the golden weapon shattered"

"Enceladus’s spear missed him by a millimeter. Jason kept
dodging, but the ground stuck to his feet. Gaea was getting
stronger, and the giant was getting faster."


Later he's able to some what keep up with Otis though it's obvious that the giant is faster:

"Otis had lost his diamond tiara and looked angry about it. He probably could have impaled Jason several times, but the giant insisted on doing a pirouette with every attack, which slowed him down"

By the end of the series he's keeping up with Porphyrion:

"Porphyrion didn’t give him much chance to savour the moment. The giant
used his spear in a whirlwind of swipes, jabs and slashes. It was all Jason could
do to stay alive."

"Porphyrion lashed out wildly with his spear, but Jason cut it in half with his
gladius. He charged in, jabbing his sword through the giant’s breastplate, then
summoned the winds and blasted Porphyrion off the edge of the cliff."

Literally stated to have gotten stronger:

‘He says he joined the storm above to take revenge on you, but had he known how strong you’ve become since the Grand
Canyon he never would’ve approached your ship.’

So using the 10x statement for the other giants, demigods like EOS Jason, Frank and Percy should be way above MHS

 

[Testarossa002]

I mean, yeah
But the 10x statement was referring to strength
So I can't apply it to speed regardless of how logical it is if it's not directly stated
The wiki's multiplier statements are just that strict

 

[Ecronicron]

I also forgot to mention that frank was straight up blitzing alcyoneus

I mean, yeah
But the 10x statement was referring to strength

But we do agree that they have gotten a lot faster tho. Because obviously Porphyrion>The twins>Enceladus

 

[DarkRuler234]

What is Nero's scaling I'm confused.

Also shouldn't just tha absolute strongest Demigods scale to Jason since he is always protreyed as one of the strongest demigods around.

 

[Testarossa002]

I also forgot to mention that frank was straight up blitzing alcyoneus

But we do agree that they have gotten a lot faster tho. Because obviously Porphyrion>The twins>Enceladus

Yeah

What is Nero's scaling I'm confused.

Nero absorbed the powers of the other 2 members of the triumvirate after their deaths. Making him 3x stronger overall. Scales to just him and god-amped Lester

Also shouldn't just tha absolute strongest Demigods scale to Jason since he is always protreyed as one of the strongest demigods around

The giants scale to Jason. Each member of the 7 have very good scaling against the Giants (mostly against Clytius). As do characters like Reyna and Thalia (mostly against Orion). Characters like Meg, Lit, and Nico benefit via chain scaling to other members of the 7

 

[DarkRuler234]

The giants scale to Jason. Each member of the 7 have very good scaling against the Giants (mostly against Clytius). As do characters like Reyna and Thalia (mostly against Orion). Characters like Meg, Lit, and Nico benefit via chain scaling to other members of the 7

Ok, I can understand the Giants but what about characters like Piper I don't she should scale at all and even Annabeth is character I'm struggling to see the vision, like I'm not disagreeing with the scaling I'm just failing to see how they scale to Jason's a child of one of the Big Three (who are always said to be far more powerful than the other demigods), I'm just asking you to show me the vision.

And isn't chain scaling something that people don't accept here? I'm confused with this.

 

[Testarossa002]

Piper

After training under Hazel, Piper grew strong enough to fight against giants like Clytius and even straight up fought evenly against Periboia

Annabeth

City level (Fought against Enceladus)

And isn't chain scaling something that people don't accept here? I'm confused with this.

Chain scaling is power scaling. A can fight evenly with B, who can also fight evenly with C and D. Meaning A=B=C=D

 

[DarkRuler234]

Chain scaling is power scaling. A can fight evenly with B, who can also fight evenly with C and D. Meaning A=B=C=D

Ok thanks, so with all that I agree with the scaling then.

 

[GraveDigger84]

Nero absorbed the powers of the other 2 members of the triumvirate after their deaths. Making him 3x stronger overall. Scales to just him and god-amped Lester

Does Nico's dura scale to this or nah?

Nico lunged at Nero’s throat, ready to choke him or make him into a Halloween skeleton. The emperor backhanded him with such force the son of Hades flew twenty feet and slammed into the nearest pillar.

 

[Testarossa002]

Does Nico's dura scale to this or nah?

I'm not sure. Read the chapter and he didn’t escape unhurt. Will had to drag him away and treat his injuries. I would have said a downscale would be appropriate but the gap between them is only 3x

 

[GraveDigger84]

I'm not sure. Read the chapter and he didn’t escape unhurt. Will had to drag him away and treat his injuries. I would have said a downscale would be appropriate but the gap between them is only 3x

How much is a downscale usually by?

 

[Testarossa002]

How much is a downscale usually by?

Downscaling is a bit more liberal compared to upscaling. In this case, a downscale would see Nico downscale to baseline 7-A (100 Megatons). Problem is, Nico already scales above baseline 7-A (146 Megatons)

 

[Ecronicron]

I mean, yeah
But the 10x statement was referring to strength
So I can't apply it to speed regardless of how logical it is if it's not directly stated
The wiki's multiplier statements are just that strict

Ok but we should at least add

"MHS(relative in speed to Jason Grace, who could intercept lightning from close range.) MUCH HIGHER as the series progresses"


to the profiles of the seven

 

[Testarossa002]

"MHS(relative in speed to Jason Grace, who could intercept lightning from close range.) MUCH HIGHER as the series progresses"

That's not an appropriate modifier
"higher", "far higher", "even higher" etc are used when a character has a boost with certain techniques outside their regular selves but said techniques are in the same tier.
The appropriate modifier is "at least" which shows that a character's regular selves scale well above the value but to an indeterminate value. Like what we have here

 

[KingTempest]

Scaling is cool

 

[Testarossa002]

Scaling is cool

thank you for the evaluation
could you tag more staffs to look at it?
we only need one more approval

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Leo physical stats the weakest of the 7 at street level, I cry

 

[GraveDigger84]

Leo physical stats the weakest of the 7 at street level, I cry

Didn't seem right to me either, maybe this calc is good enough for Wall Level at least? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GraveDigger84/Leo_takes_a_fall

Speaking of Leo's page, I thought this was weird:

Island level with Final explosion (Completely vaporized Gaea who could survive being at the center of Jason's storm<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Testarossa002/Demigods_Of_Olympus#cite_note-93">[Note 35]</a>)

Do we really scale people to the full force of a storm for being able to stay inside of it? Gaea was just "constrained in a cocoon of wind" idk why that would mean she's withstanding the whole storm's power, especially if she's in the eye.

Mountain level with Fire Manipulation (Damaged Clytius<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Testarossa002/Demigods_Of_Olympus#cite_note-91">[</a>

Do we actually have a quote for this? All I see is:

‘Oh, yeah?’ Leo growled. ‘Well, maybe you got the smoke, buddy, but I’ve got the fire.’
His hands blazed. He shot white-hot columns of flame at the giant, but Clytius’s smoky aura absorbed them on impact. Tendrils of black haze travelled back up the lines of fire, snuffing out the light and heat and covering Leo in darkness.
Leo fell to his knees, clutching at his throat.

 

[Testarossa002]

Do we actually have a quote for this? All I see is:

The next chapter

HAZEL ALMOST FELT SORRY FOR CLYTIUS.
They attacked him from every direction – Leo shooting fire at his legs, Frank and Piper jabbing at his chest, Jason flying into the air and kicking him in the face. Hazel was proud to see how well Piper remembered her sword-fighting lessons.
Each time the giant’s smoky veil started creeping around one of them, Nico was there, slashing through it, drinking in the darkness with his Stygian blade.
Percy and Annabeth were on their feet, looking weak and dazed, but their swords were drawn.
When did Annabeth get a sword? And what was it made of – ivory? They looked like they wanted to help, but there was no need. The giant was surrounded.
Clytius snarled, turning back and forth as if he couldn’t decide which of them to kill first. Wait!
Hold still! No! Ouch!
The darkness around him dispelled completely, leaving nothing to protect him except his battered armour. Ichor oozed from a dozen wounds. The damage healed almost as fast as it was inflicted, but Hazel could tell the giant was tiring.

Do we really scale people to the full force of a storm for being able to stay inside of it? Gaea was just "constrained in a cocoon of wind" idk why that would mean she's withstanding the whole storm's power, especially if she's in the eye.

I'll just remove this

 

[GraveDigger84]

The next chapter

Ah I see. I mean, it doesn't really say he actually hurt him tbh. Just that he shot the fire at him.

I'll just remove this

 

[Testarossa002]

Ah I see. I mean, it doesn't really say he actually hurt him tbh. Just that he shot the fire at him.

it's implied that the four of them jumping him was causing wounds all over his body

Clytius snarled, turning back and forth as if he couldn’t decide which of them to kill first. Wait!
Hold still! No! Ouch!
The darkness around him dispelled completely, leaving nothing to protect him except his battered armour. Ichor oozed from a dozen wounds. The damage healed almost as fast as it was inflicted, but Hazel could tell the giant was tiring.

 

[GraveDigger84]

it's implied that the four of them jumping him was causing wounds all over his body

Fair enough

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This looks primo, nice work as always.

 

[Testarossa002]

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Thank you all for your inputs

 

[Qawsedf234]

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Thank you all for your inputs

I'll close this then. If it needs to be reopened message me or someone else