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Alright,an Inganock match,and 2nd (actually 1st since that Neo vs Rinko just an vengeance) Rinko match,alright lets go!!!

-Both in character

-Speed equalized

-Range is 10 meter and start with CQC

-Place located in inside of train

-Win via anything!!!!

Master of Forms Rinko
Petrovna


VS


  • Rinko : 0
  • Petrovna : 0
  • Inconclusive : 0
 
Interesting match, rinko can actually kill petrovna with her conceptual and non-existence attacks, rinko has a lot of resistances as well, so petrovna's means of winning comes down to death manipulation.

Looking inconclusive, all petrovna's attacks involve death manipulation, even if you dodge her attacks you still die due to her attacks being death itself.

Mind manipulation is somehting every critter can do by speaking basically, but that gets resists here, spatial manipulation involves warping space but gets resists here too, so death manipulation is how petrovna has a chance, said death manipulation can kill critters and kikai which aren't even alive or dead which requires existence erasing abilities. So in short, inconclusive.
 
Title says Keira but the picture used is Rinko? If you want to use something in a character's story in-universe, then at least get it right

If you cant do something as simple as that, might as well just use their names
 
does petrovna consider herself a monster? (don't remember if she does consider herself that) If so rindou's strongest ability can activate which can kill petrovna likely with the concept of society killing a beast IIRC
 
I don't remember her considering herself a monster, maybe? Would have to rewatch the scene, albeit she is pretty absurd being a combo of kikai and critter, regardless it would become a shootout, who does what first, rindou doesn't have any resistance to death manipulation or existence erasure, which petrovna does with every attack.
 
true though seeing that she would try to activate her ability too so there is that
 
Both can harm each other. So there won't be any line of argument about "can X harm Y". The question then would lead to "who can pull that off"

Not sure about how Petrovna perceive herself, but she's well aware that she is not a human anymore at the very least.

Would vote for Petrovna if it turns out she doesn't see herself as a "beast" as she can just spam her lances and seed spray without moving all that much (making Rinko's cage relatively useless) and better AoE. Dunno how her "multiplying present" would factor in any vs related scenario though

Would vote for Rinko if Petrovna sees herself as a "beast" as even the slightest contact with her blade or cage would trigger the condition for Rinko's Forced Cooperation and that would spell doom for Petrovna
 
yeah so this REALLY depends on how she precieves herself but she isn't human and considers herself a critter which wouldn't that qualify as a beast to society?
 
She's well aware that she's not human. Not that she thinks herself as an anomaly that would be unfit to general society. Petrovna herself consider that she's a necessity to Inganock. If she sees herself the same way Keira did, her "necessary for all citizen of Inganock" wouldn't even be a thing
 
ok so her best move is moot but her kantan abilities tbf still can work and should likely still affect petrovna no?
 
And what would that do? Chip away several centimeter of her bodies? Her cage can affect her own self. Cancel was never her forte, shes not Harumitsu. Speed affecting moves is moot since speed equalized. Spatial related hax can only get you so far when literally all of her opponent's (in this case Petrovna's) move also produce that kind of effects + death hax. It's a melee oriented fighter against ranged fighter with AoE advantage. Etc

If you're gonna argue other Kantan abilities then make an argument. Saying "she still got Kantan abilities" isn't saying anything meaningful
 
hmm alright. Welp than I'll go with petrovna due to rinko's final ability being mooted likely as while petrovna isn't human as she knows she considers herself necessary for the society as fab said. Petrovna whos nature as a kikai + critter makes her all the harder to kill and can kill Rinko with her seeds and attacks.
 
Your reasoning is based on my line of argument of whether Petrovna's view on herself would trigger Rinko's Forced Cooperation or not, something that i want to clarify as well. As of now, it's still a toss up whether Rinko can affect her with Kyudan or not

Your reasoning is flawed for as long as someone have not confirm my claim
 
Nobody knows about these characters, hence no replies, but this seemingly depends on whatever or not petrovna considers herself a monster, rewatched the scene, she knows she is no longer human but she doesn't consider herself a monster, in fact she thinks she is beautiful, and wants to love everyone, and make them stop living in the past, which she will do by killing them.
 
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