Rimuru's abilities & speed revision (wn)

[Sisyphusx]

So are you agreeing with the OP or neutral?

He mean that he agrees but leaning towards neutral or somewhere in between

 

[Sisyphusx]

@Peak who will make the NEP thread can I make it if someone isn't already doing it?

And @Thunderian can you tell me the reason of you disagreeing with NEP?

 

[Peak]

@Peak who will make the NEP thread can I make it if someone isn't already doing it?

And @Thunderian can you tell me the reason of you disagreeing with NEP?

it's not the time yet, we have other CRTs to complete and NEP is still questionable, let's wait

 

[Sisyphusx]

it's not the time yet, we have other CRTs to complete and NEP is still questionable, let's wait

Alright

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

And @Thunderian can you tell me the reason of you disagreeing with NEP?

I'm sure Rimuru can get a NEP, but not with an argument like that.

 

[Sisyphusx]

I'm sure Rimuru can get a NEP, but not with an argument like that.

Ohh! Would you mind telling me how can he get NEP then

 

[ImmortalDread]

Before this is closed, lemme just say I'm not sure about the NEP at all.

Like i said previously, you can't eat your cake and have it. He already has TD 1, became a god like veldanava and thus most likely has the same physiology as him but therein is were the problem lies.

By nature his physiology and TD already makes him independent of the great spirits thus there is no way to deduce that these spirits disappearing automatically means that aspect of himself they govern disappears/ becomes nonexistent as well. You can't have both as having one contradicts the other.

Point is if you give him NEP 1 nature 2 & 4 for surviving even without the great spirits it would assume he's bound to/ dependent on them.

Wait I was not aware that his TD already covered that.

 

[Fixxed]

i said that you're "implying" that, not saying that

Then your intepretation on my statement is false

concepts are fundamental aspect, and he doesn't have those

I says

its already established in another thread that Rimuru unbounded and lacked Great Spirits.

Proof that he doesnt have a concept, even a concept that make up his existence, dont false, i says his existence not outside existence

And where that thread, simply exist after the destruction of all creation include concept is will not make him lack of that, that just resist

 

[Fixxed]

the vsbattle wiki standard for nep1 isn't for you to totally go non existent but it's for you to lack all features to exist. the verse contains type 1 concepts,information type 2 and even dualities,but they were formed due to the existence of the great spirits that holds everything,its laws and all
it wasn't said rimuru "survived" like it's a resistance it's he's "unaffected" the only thing that is unaffected when all things including the great spirits collapse is nothingness,rimuru doesn't rely on conceptual existence and informational existence, so the argument here is that rimuru literally can exist without any typical form of existence within the scope of reality (all things that governs the verse) and the only thing that remains is nothing.
it's sure nature 1,aspect 2 and 4

First, where you get, i say NEP1 must totally nonexist in every aspect. I says NEP1 must in nonexistence state

That just resist not even lack of that, you can destroy all thing include concept and exist in nothingness and just get resistence not even immunity. If the feats says he not exist in nothingness but become nothingness it self (as long as he not "dead" in literally meaning) then he can have NEP

 

[Sisyphusx]

First, where you get, i say NEP1 must totally nonexist in every aspect. I says NEP1 must in nonexistence state

Do you mean that to qualify for NEP, a character should be nonexistent in all 4 aspects, and bein nonexistent in 1-2 aspects won't give him NEP?

 

[Fixxed]

Do you mean that to qualify for NEP, a character should be nonexistent in all 4 aspects, and bein nonexistent in 1-2 aspects won't give him NEP?

Bruh are you read my comment?

First, where you get, i say NEP1 must totally nonexist in every aspect

 

[Sisyphusx]

Bruh are you read my comment?

Yes and if I am not mistaking it says that For getting NEP1 a character must be nonexistent in every aspects
So you're implying that the, "NEP type 1, Aspect 2, 4" or else is invalid and qualifying for 1-2 aspects still don't gives a character NEP so bruhhhh

well

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tensura-web-novel-revision-our-slime-doesnt-exist.143742/#post-5174464

this is the thread for NEP1 rimuru now so you can state your premise there if you want

@Peak this thread still isn't closed can you plz ask any staff to close it?

 

[donegbe]

First, where you get, i say NEP1 must totally nonexist in every aspect. I says NEP1 must in nonexistence state

That just resist not even lack of that, you can destroy all thing include concept and exist in nothingness and just get resistence not even immunity. If the feats says he not exist in nothingness but become nothingness it self (as long as he not "dead" in literally meaning) then he can have NEP

I don't know whether it is your english or not but you're wrong.

Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of ones existence, to paradoxically 'exist', yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence, or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence'.

1. Material Nonexistence: The character doesn't exist in a conventional sense. In terms of binary, this would be a 0, where existence is 1 and nonexistence is 0. In simple terms that means that the characters simply lack the aspect, in the same way that a stone lacks a soul.

 

[Tatsumi504]

I'm surprised at how y'all have no problem restarting a thread that was supposed to be closed

 

[Fixxed]

Yes and if I am not mistaking it says that For getting NEP1 a character must be nonexistent in every aspects
So you're implying that the, "NEP type 1, Aspect 2, 4" or else is invalid and qualifying for 1-2 aspects still don't gives a character NEP so bruhhhh

Where exactly i says that

Or are you cant different a question and a statement

First, where you get, i say NEP1 must totally nonexist in every aspect.

In this i ask you where you get i says NEP 1 must.... i not says NEP 1 must....

I don't know whether it is your english or not but you're wrong.

And where i wrong?

 

[donegbe]

Where execly i says that

Or are you cant different a question and a statement

In this i ask you where you get i says NEP 1 must.... i not says NEP 1 must....

And where i wrong?

it's ok, i got you wrong my bad
You're asking a question without a question mark so i thought you where implying that...

 

[Peak]

@Peak this thread still isn't closed can you plz ask any staff to close it?

already requested

 

[Sisyphusx]

it's ok, i got you wrong my bad
You're asking a question without a question mark so i thought you where implying that...

Same and his way of saying that made me interpret it in other way

 

[Antvasima]

I was asked to close thIs thread. Is that acceptable?

 

[donegbe]

I was asked to close thIs thread. Is that acceptable?

Yeah it should be closed

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so then.