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ok, how would that work? all the boasting i have seen regarding the powerlevels of hadou gods i saw in this page was throughly disproven after reading the VN myself. nothing from ren in that novel makes me believe he could passively beat any noteworthy servantSage God Slayer said:^Any version of Hadou God Ren would passively defeat Edgemond xD
Gargoyle One said:Can you stop downplaying Dies Irae already? Mr. Longinus only killed 8 Swastika's?
... Kinda ignoring the fact that Mercurius created a Supernovae, created a black hole out of all the stars in the cosmos and basically causing it to implode via making the goddamn cosmos into an elementary particle and sending it into the past.Embracetophats said:?Gargoyle One said:Can you stop downplaying Dies Irae already? Mr. Longinus only killed 8 Swastika's?
how can reinhard kill swastikas and why would he do it in the first place?
and i am not downplaying. i am merely basing my answers off the content of the original novel and considering it more trustworthy than random translations and saysos of fanboys
when did i say that Merc is only city level?Embracetophats said:... Kinda ignoring the fact that Mercurius created a Supernovae, created a black hole out of all the stars in the cosmos and basically causing it to implode via making the goddamn cosmos into an elementary particle and sending it into the past.
What on earth about all of this comes across as city level to you?
This. That is literally what you are saying. You CANNOT, and I repeat, cannot have Ren as a Hadou God being capable of being beaten by Servants without implying that Mercurius can also be defeated. In fact, you are basically saying that they can defeat all of the Hadou Gods by virtue of this.Embracetophats said:i mean, Dantes can also make anyone who ever felt the slightest bit of hatred for someone else attack them in blind fury.
if, by any chance, we were to use redhead hadou god ren (just the dies irae version), what are the odds he wouldnt implode via sakurai, shirou and machina turning on him from the inside out?
oh, but i never said that it is going to be a servant that would beat him.Embracetophats said:So. Again. How in the bloody hell did you come to the conclusion that, Ren, at his strongest, is capable of being beaten by a Servant? It doesn't even make sense.
So I am really questioning if you have actually read the visual novel and not just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
oh, but i never said that it is going to be a servant that would beat him.Embracetophats said:So. Again. How in the bloody hell did you come to the conclusion that, Ren, at his strongest, is capable of being beaten by a Servant? It doesn't even make sense.
So I am really questioning if you have actually read the visual novel and not just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
I'd tell you to play KKK, but again I'd be doing you a favour cause this ability of Shirou is explained just about enough in Mitsudmomoe for you to be so blatantly downplaying. His "Taikyoku" lets him destroy supernatural phenomena and even Godhood, which allowed him to disrupt the binding of the Shuradou.Trexalfa29 said:oh, but i never said that it is going to be a servant that would beat him.Embracetophats said:So. Again. How in the bloody hell did you come to the conclusion that, Ren, at his strongest, is capable of being beaten by a Servant? It doesn't even make sense.
So I am really questioning if you have actually read the visual novel and not just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
all i said was that dantes could go "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" at the LDO members inside of him with his hatred power and they would do the job.
i mean, if calling out their name is enough for them to bail on reinhard, imagine what an actual ability from a descended higher dimensional being would do
i did, no one has replied it for 2 hoursEvilMegaCookie said:Now, could we get back to the topic? Or at least you should create a separate thread for it. Hell, jump into the Masadaverse discussion instead of here.
... Yes, I just realised this was a VS thread.