Regarding the existence of Composite Human

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It's not even that the Real World can't count as a verse, it can, for things that actually exist, such as animals or weapons, but in the way it is used for CH (or for any Real Life Composite), it doesn't count as a setting, because they're not actually part of reality.

It is the same way for even fictional composites. There is no canon verse with Composite Link,Godzilla,etc. We just mash up everything from the fictional canon and make it its own character. There is no 4-B composite godzilla in any godzilla work, there is no composite link in any legend of zelda game. Both are allowed because they have a verse where they get their feats and scaling from. CH has all of human history where he gets his scaling which is what we combine into 1 profile. Why is it that Fictional composites who do the same thing as CH are allowed but CH isn't. Fictional composites aren't actually part of their fictional canon, their feats are.

CH isn't part of the real world, their feats are.

Both should be allowed. And like I said before, any other composites shouldn't be due to the other composites were FAR too broad

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Again, Real Life Composites and Fictional Composites are not comparable. Fictonal Composites are actual official versions of the same character put together taking into consideration their settings to make something that makes sense (they also have different regulations and such), Real Life Composites just mash a bunch of unrelated people together to create a non-existent being with no defined setting without worrying about logic or contradictions.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Also, if you don't think literally every single human being who has ever existed is broad, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

The fictional characters are the same in name, but not everything else.

They have different backstories, power levels, canons, personalities, behaviors, weaknesses, etc. For example, Composite Godzilla is basically a mashup with every character named Godzilla even though many are far apart in every other way besides "He is big" He is a lizard" and "he is godzilla"

They aren't truly the same character, just different characters with the same name and (sometimes) same look

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yes, but that's not even nearly as broad and ridiculous as every human being who has ever lived.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

We all have relatively the same DNA don't we?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

We all have relatively the same DNA don't we?

Same could be said for other Real Life Composites; all deleted.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It's broad, but it's nowhere near as broad as "Composite Primate" or "Composite Shark"

Which have subspecies upon subspecies upon subspecies of animals which are so different they can't even reproduce.

Humanity is 1 species, they share the basic features which make them human and aren't so broad that they need to be divided into sub species. The most we humans get divided to is genes and the amount of melanin, but we are still 1 basic species and share the same basic anatomy,body function, etc.

Also, NO!!!

Yes all animals share our DNA. But the other composites are way too vague to be defined exactly. Even more than CH.

Hitler, Muhammad, your old homeless man down the street, Me, Antvasima, Mr.Beast, the rude waiter in mc donalds, etc,etc, may be the exact opposite in terms of personality,appearence, and beliefs. But they are still human with the same basic anatomy and structure as well as the same body functions

this isn't the same for saying just "sharks" or "primates" or "ants" or "trees" because subspecies sharks have such different anatomies, reproductive systems, behavior, and genetics which are so different they can't be reproduce

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Again, subspecies wasn't the only reason they were deleted; I posted an entire list of reasons, and CH fits pretty much all of them.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Same could be said for other Real Life Composites; all deleted.

Can you provide an example? All those others composites are different species meshed together.

 

[ExodusNexus]

CH is way too broad. We don't even allow profiles to be part of Composites if they even use technology or settings slightly different from each other, and here we're compositing every human in existence when two versions of the same character who have different paths and versions are very iffy? Count me for deletion

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Can you provide an example? All those others composites are different species meshed together.

Their DNA was still similar enough for them to be considered the same type of animal, yet, all got deleted. DNA isn't enough, its still too broad.

Heck, Composite Human was even included amoung the ones that were deemed unaceptable, and the only reason he wasn't deleted right then and there was due to popularity. He is too broad, he's always been.

 

[YungManzi]

That's not how species work Paulo.

Just because they're named the same in a broad way, doesn't make them anywhere near the same species, or have anywhere close to the same DNA.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Sigh..... I can't believe I have to explain biology in a VS Wiki thread

Here is a question if a composite of the real world is too broad??

Can they reproduce between another one of that species??

All the already deleted real world composites fail that category. You can't have a dog and a wolf reproduce a fertile offspring. You can't have a whale shark and a great white reproduce a fertile offspring. A Chimp and a gorilla can't reproduce a fertile offspring. A pine cone and an apple tree can't reproduce a fertile offspring.

A human can, no matter if it's a native american from oklahoma, if it's a mongolian from ulanbator, if it's an arab from makkah, if it's a jew from jerusalem, if it's a german from berlin, if it's an inuit from nunavut, they can reproduce and bear fertile offspring unless they have a condition that prevents that. the other composite species can't, humans can. That's the difference

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Doesn't change the fact that it's the same species and the other weren't.

Um no? I think besides CV, CH was the only was deemed acceptable.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Ok. Composite Human is still too broad tho, regardless of species.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ok. Composite Human is still too broad tho.

This. Regardless of what the other categories contained, literally every human in existence is way broader than every version of a single fictional person, and even then those can be denied.

Not to mention this isn't its only issue.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Um no? I think besides CV, CH was the only was deemed acceptable.

None of them was deemed acceptable. CH was the only one to get an exception due to popularity.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

The too broad problem has to do with how we works in versus fights. We can merely just ban him in versus threads for being too broad

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The too broad problem has to do with how we works in versus fights. We can merely just ban him in versus threads for being too broad

No? This is a issue that every composite and addition to a composite has to go through to exist. It has nothing to do with vs threads on its own.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, CH is not only breaking Vs thread rules, he is straight up breaking editing rules of what can or cannot have a page.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I got a compromise, we make a standard real world humanity profile and put CH just like we do for Link or Godzilla

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I got a compromise, we make a standard real world humanity profile and put CH just like we do for Link or Godzilla

That doesn't even make sense.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

The Human Race (The Real World) is already a thing. And CH would still be breaking rules.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Basically have a profile for the real world standard human and have a tabber which is composite human and we keep it

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Yeah sorry, Yobo is right that doesn't make sense.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

At the very least we should keep the human race

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Basically have a profile for the real world standard human and have a tabber which is composite human and we keep it

That's quite possibly actually even more nonsensical in all honesty.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

At the very least we should keep the human race

That isn't being questioned is it.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

There's no reason to keep CH at all. Characters like Link or Godzilla have actual settings and aren't nearly as broad and senseless as CH, which is why Real Life Composites and Fictional Composites can't be compared.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

And how?? because it isn't merging humanity and is talking about the power of the real world right now

 

[Yobo_Blue]

And how?? because it isn't merging humanity and is talking about the power of the real world right now

I'm sorry, but what? That means nothing.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

The Human Race is fine because it is not a Real Life Composite, since it actually exists.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

There's no reason to keep CH at all. Characters like Link or Godzilla have actual settings and aren't nearly as broad and senseless as CH, which is why Real Life Composites and Fictional Composites can't be compared.

but their composite version tho

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

About how The Human Race should stay at the very least. This is a compromise if CH has to be removed and we are overried

 

[Yobo_Blue]

About how The Human Race should stay at the very least. This is a compromise if CH has to be removed and we are overried

No one wants him removed though.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

but their composite version tho

That's already been addressed by multiple people.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

but their composite version tho

Yeah, that's what I said. I was explaining why Fictional Composites are different from Real Life Composites, so "Link and Godzilla have composites, so CH is fine" is not a valid argument.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

About how The Human Race should stay at the very least. This is a compromise if CH has to be removed and we are overried

The Human Race is not getting removed. We're only talking about removing CH, due to being a Real Life Composite; The Human Race won't be afected by this thread.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

About how The Human Race should stay at the very least. This is a compromise if CH has to be removed and we are overried

No one wants him removed though.

Then what is the point of this thread?? Moving him to the joke battles wiki is even worse honestly than flat out removing him. He would die of obscurity and turn into a meme and will just turn into another crappy joke battles wiki meme profile