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Regarding RWBY striking strength

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because? It's just a storm? And it has nothing to do with physical stats? Especially in the case of an outlier? And disgusting scaling that makes the gap between students and pros unrealistic and comical?
 
There is a feat

And there is a clear divide with the characters who scale to the feat and guys like RNJR.

It is not inconsistent.

Now if it was like, I dunno, Yang shattering a mountain or some shit, that would be an outlier, but here it's a character who's consistently portrayed as far above everyone else doing a feat.
 
Just also going to point out everyone is also not a metric to how we do things around here. Some of the verses on here, 'everyone' thinks we downplay. Others, 'we wank'

Weekly gets a pass from me, I guess. So AP scales to SS. Cool, I guess. Unless I missed something, seems fine to me in all accounts
 
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because? It's just a storm? And it has nothing to do with physical stats? Especially in the case of an outlier? And disgusting scaling that makes the gap between students and pros unrealistic and comical?
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Character A generates a storm.

Character A manages to harm character B with physical blows, while the latter is durable enough to withstand the attack related to whatever created the storm.

It's very very simple to understand.
 
I mean, dragon Ball has people boost their strength by more than a thousandfold to fight others, and Don't immediately 1 shot. Extreme example, but saying "I don't like that characters consistently portrayed as superior being as superior as they are because it doesn't feel right" doesn't really work especially with stuff like that out here.
 
There's also the instance of Cinder, while recovering from her injuries, weak, and heavily exhausted, casually oneshotting a Beringel, a Grimm that gave Ruby a difficult fight
 
"But here is a character consistently portrayed as far above everyone's else doing the feat?"

But is that true? 3 8-C opponents taking down a maiden? Students at that? they actually contributed to the fight, fighting and hurting her directly. You can keep saying, they are far above the rest and I'll keep bringing up these. there are numerous examples that prove the students and the pros aren't that big in ap. At least scale to the Grimm dragon, an actual good physical feat. And yes that storm feat is not only unquantifiable, but it scales to only the pros, who as I demonstrated time and time again, aren't THAT much higher than the students. I'll even argue not even one tier higher.
 
There the issue. You said SUPERIOR. And they are SUPERIOR, mainly by experience and skill, with some better strength. And you can call that pis, or is every encounter pro and student pis too? they aren't SUPERIOR in such a gap by ap, but SKILL. If neo was a pro, she would be 7-B for beating up Yang. That would even be here justification, causally toyed with yang, when it had all to do with skill and little to do with ap. Just like the pros case, except they at least have some higher strength than students. I'm not downplaying nor am I trolling. It's blatantly obvious in the show
 
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There the issue. You said SUPERIOR. And they are SUPERIOR, mainly by experience and skill, with some better strength. And you can call that pis, or is every encounter pro and student pis too? they aren't SUPERIOR in such a gap by ap, but SKILL. If neo was a pro, she would be 7-B for beating up Yang. That would even be here justification, causally toyed with yang, when it had all to do with skill and little to do with ap. Just like the pros case, except they at least have some higher strength than students. I'm not downplaying nor am I trolling. It's blatantly obvious in the show
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No, it had to do with all of this, including AP. I don't know what you're trying to argue here....

They are repeatedly shown as being physically superior to the students.
 
Every encounter with a pro and students had the students utterly dominated the entire time. Skill wont help you block attacks from an amped Nora and then laugh off the attack like its nothing. Skill wont help you casually catch Nora's hammer and then throw her across the room while not wanting to fight.
 
Storm made using magic energy

Character uses said magic energy to fight

Character can physically hurt people who tank said magic energy

So what's the reason for arbitrarily being several tiers lower? Do you just not like storm calcs? Clouds are heavy when you consider how massive they are.
 
It's called scaling. I don't care what tier they are as long that's not 7-B. As long as the gap ain't that big. 2 issues, storm to SS, and the gap. Both are not correct for many reasons
 
No, it had to do with all of this, including AP. I don't know what you're trying to argue here....

They are repeatedly shown as being physically superior to the students.

I think you missed he part where I said the pros are stronger than the students. Just not by that much.
 
Legit, the only instance of tier 8 people having a fair fight against a tier 7 is Mercury + Emerald + Cinder vs Amber.

Every other time there is an obvious gap. And no, running circles around someone doesn't mean that the AP gap isn't a thing.

Or are flies 10-B because they can run circles around a human?
 
@ever you missed the point. The storm doesn't scale to SS, and I'm sayin the gap isn't that big. So what do you think I'm tryimg to say? Either the students backward scales, back to 8-A again, or you bring the pros down the their level, and right dragon off as outlier me bringing up the dragon had nothing to do with the ap gap, it was because it's a feat that scales to striking. That's the point
 
Why wouldn't AP scale to Striking Strength here? DisharmonyCrisis seems to be trying way too hard here.

Like, seriously. the logic isn't hard at all to grasp. The thing that gives them high AP in the first place (Aura and in some cases, Magic) are what gives them protection and amps them up normally. It's like saying "I can shoot plasma out and harm people, but amping punches with it won't do any harm". No! Either way, it's plasma; just in another state.
 
"The storm doesn't scale to SS"

You have yet to give a reason besides "it's a storm" and not addressing the reasons why it would scale.

"and I'm sayin the gap isn't that big"

The gap you're advocating for is >1000x. "The gap isn't that big" is a blatant lie in this case.

"Either the students backward scales, back to 8-A again"

This had nothing to do with them being 8-A. They were 8-A via actual feats that got debunked.

"or you bring the pros down the their level"

No because there's a clear gap with feats, you're not getting this. Why can't the gap be this big also? You've never elaborated on why.

"me bringing up the dragon had nothing to do with the ap gap, it was because it's a feat that scales to striking"

Which still results in a gap >1000x and goes against your argument.
 
I've outlined above why the storm scales to physical stats, to which you have not responded. You realize that PIS exists, right? We don't downgrade for every sort of inconsistency, and in this case it's literally 1 event. Unless we're going python level hulk and 9-C Oblivio via reverse scaling off of anti feats as you seem to suggest. The only time a sole anti feat wrecks a tier like that is with a tier 0, otherwise there's gotta be some other issue.
 
They scale either way because Ozpin was able to destroy one of Cinder's attacks by slashing it, and they were fighting using both physical and "magical" attacks
 
Listen, even tho I corrected you, you repeat the same thing all over again.? I mentioned why I said dragon, it's because it's a feat that scales to striking, unlike the storm. The gap can't be that big Cause it was never established as such. And I'm not answering the first question as I already did
 
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