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Nothing wrong with getting some scheduled sleep time in. We're only human.Arc's a confirmed child.
PreachNothing wrong with getting some scheduled sleep time in. We're only human.
It’s past my bed time but as I said earlier there’s a scan proving that Hikone is transcendent and shattered the boundaries between hollow and Shinigami. I’ll send it tomorrow.
Think he means it in the way Aizens form meant it.
Don't know the context but being a hybrid doesn't you shattered the boundaries.
Wouldn't being able to be a lynchpin for the worlds already put Hikone at the level of ichigo during the war? Or same with Ukitake.
Danger Ichigo < True Shikai Ichigo < Hikone? if so then what is the problem with scaling to 5-A?
The only person who doesn't understand it is Hasch. It's a lot of arguments from incredulity and a lot of head canon. The OP asserted that Dangai Ichigo is probably True Bankai Ichigo level, which is incorrect for obvious reasons and isn't reflected in our accepted scaling.I read the doc, I'm really failing to see why Hikone doesn't scale to 5-A.
Wouldn't being able to be a lynchpin for the worlds already put Hikone at the level of ichigo during the war? Or same with Ukitake.
The only person who doesn't understand it is Hasch. It's a lot of arguments from incredulity and a lot of head canon. The OP asserted that Dangai Ichigo is probably True Bankai Ichigo level, which is incorrect for obvious reasons and isn't reflected in our accepted scaling.
At this point I'm waiting for staff to comment.
Danger Ichigo < True Shikai Ichigo < Hikone? if so then what is the problem with scaling to 5-A?
I read the doc, I'm really failing to see why Hikone doesn't scale to 5-A.
Kon complex multiversal thodownscales everyone to Kon.
Time passes differently in the Soul Society so im pretty sure it was years no?Aizen in 18 months went from his FKT level to his TYBW level,
That feat was for muscular Kon. Do you even read bleach? Nobody scales to muscular Kon he's literally the god of the verse. (jokes obv)Kon complex multiversal tho
Hikone's been stated to be on that god tier/Soul King level
Ginjo has been stated to be able to 'destroy the world', meaning the Bleach cosmos in context as Tokinada was referring to Soul King power
The Narrator said Ginjo could fight the strongest verison of Hikone. Ginjo's emotion amped Getsuga is = to the Getsuga that bodied Soul King Yhwach.
Ichigo and Aizen still can be above Hikone. Ichigo's full power is HoS + Bankai anyways, and has Gran Ray Getsuga's on top of that so he clearly outscales even the Getsuga that one tapped Yhwach. Aizen in 18 months went from his FKT level to his TYBW level, so an extra 6 months or 1/3rd of that time isn't farfetched for huge leaps, and him somewhat scaling to Bankai Ichigo and SK Yhwach is still enough room for him to scale above Hikone. And that's not taking into account abilties etc
The only other people that you could make headcanon arguments for scaling to Kenpachi are Byakuya and Toshiro for 1.) Being portrayed as peers to Kenpachi at the end of the TYBW and clearly being the 3 strongest Captains and 2.) Literally being written out of the story by the time the fight between Tokinada and Hikone came about, implying that relativity from the TYBW still applies or that the story would've been drastically different and not a Kenpachi only show had they been there.
And even then, it's not concrete and more so implications. Other than that, nobody by CFYOW really has even a possibility to scale to the God tiers
Deflected how? Using brute force? Because if it was threw an ability, this argument is useless.Said attack was slightly deflected by Tokinada, the novel never says which Ichigo is referencing.
threw an ability
Actually from what i remember it was from Hanataro's Hisagomaru which heals the damage off of someone and transforms into an attack massively above its original AP.via a Benihime beam
黒崎一護が放つ、最大威力の月牙天衝にも匹敵する一撃。the novel never says which Ichigo is referencing.
Damn me and my fast writing. You know what I meant lol!
Yeah, it doesn't need to specify which Ichigo since it means in general. If they wanted to tell use which they would have said "during this time" and state which point.黒崎一護が放つ、最大威力の月牙天衝にも匹敵する一撃。
A strike equal to the greatest power Getsuga Tenshou fired off by Kurosaki Ichigo.
Spoiler warning, "greatest power Getsuga fired off by Ichigo" means, verbatim, the strongest Getsuga Ichigo ever used. That is how grammar works.
I was correct (thank Arc for the scan)Actually from what i remember it was from Hanataro's Hisagomaru which heals the damage off of someone and transforms into an attack massively above its original AP.
Basically he used an amped attack that scales above his normal AP to slightly knock away Ginjo's Getsuga.
Verbatim says that Tokinada used an extremely amped attack, that was incapable of canceling out the GT, but was barely able to divert its direction. Not an anti-feat. Bottom left page to top right page btw.I was correct (thanks Arc for the scan)
I was correct (thanks Arc for the scan)
Then it should have no impact on scaling.Verbatim says that Tokinada used an extremely amped attack, that was incapable of canceling out the GT, but was barely able to divert its direction. Not an anti-feat. Bottom left page to top right page btw.
Then it should have no impact on scaling.
Deflected how? Using brute force? Because if it was threw an ability, this argument is useless.
Then it should have no impact on scaling.
Spoiler warning, "greatest power Getsuga fired off by Ichigo" means, verbatim, the strongest Getsuga Ichigo ever used. That is how grammar works.
Moving an attack slightly off course does not mean you scale dawg.It should given it's still an attack from an absurdly weaker character, without exaggerating if that Getsuga was the same as the one that killed Ywach it would be the same as chapter 1 Ichigo deflecting Aizen's fragor.
Yeah? Ginjo on profile is only 5-A with that one attack, no one disagrees with this.Also, that supposed power up was only for that one attack, so nobody scales to that anyway.
It doesn’t rely on context. ”The strongest Getsuga Ichigo ever fired” applies to All forms of Ichigo broadly, that’s how grammar works. We don’t need a specific form, as the statement applies to all forms. The strongest Getsuga Ichigo has fired was 5-A, this is not hard. It can be deflected because slightly throwing an attack of course is not a valid feat for scaling.The novel never addresses versions of characters for the claims it makes and relies on context for that, see how it talks about base Aizen and current Aizen without making a clear distinction. Context wise, makes no sense for Ginjo to power up that much or for it to be deflected.
Base Zaraki is 5-A on profile. How is this an anti feat?Also, it wouldn't scale to Hikone anyway given h couldn't defeat base Zraki.
Moving an attack slightly off course does not mean you scale dawg.
It doesn’t rely on context. ”The strongest Getsuga Ichigo ever fired” applies to All forms of Ichigo broadly, that’s how grammar works. We don’t need a specific form, as the statement applies to all forms. The strongest Getsuga Ichigo has fired was 5-A, this is not hard. It can be deflected because slightly throwing an attack of course is not a valid feat for scaling.
Base Zaraki is 5-A on profile. How is this an anti feat?
I quite literally just explained to you what “strongest Getsuga Ichigo ever fired” means. You’re objectively wrong hereThe novel never addresses versions of characters for the claims it makes and relies on context for that, see how it talks about base Aizen and current Aizen without making a clear distinction. Context wise, makes no sense for Ginjo to power up that much or for it to be deflected.
Also, it wouldn't scale to Hikone anyway given h couldn't defeat base Zraki.
Not sure how important this is but when Ichigo had appeared in his dangai form to Aizen, his friend could sense transcended Aizen but not Ichigo. So others being able to sense Hikone but being weaker is justification for Hikone not being on the level of Aizen and Ichigo.
Don't remember that being stated but ok.Aizen intentionally lowers his reiatsu unlike Hikone.
Don't remember that being stated but ok.
Yeah that is specific and exclusive to Deicide Aizen. The entire point of his character arc was arrogance, but by the TYBW he no longer does this, and he didn't do this prior to the Deicide arc.That's how Gin almost kills Mullet Aizen.
Yeah that is specific and exclusive to Deicide Aizen. The entire point of his character arc was arrogance, but by the TYBW he no longer does this, and he didn't do this prior to the Deicide arc.
So is he always doing this?