Regarding a couple of Goku's losses

[LTB2000]

People will always root for the haxxed person because he can bypass whatever the other guy can do, and goku is no exception. Which is why the hax vs no hax is prohibited.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

That's not how it works. Hax varies wildly of their use. It usually bypass dura but it doesn't bypass everything. Speed for example is rarely able to be countered by hax, since bltize is a thing. Hax vs AP and Dura is only really a stomp when hax can counter all stats, or at least counter the right stats so that the stats characters can't do anything.

 

[Aparajita]

GEOM was a fair fight. GEOM is so much slower than Goku that his mind hax is the only way that he was able to survive a speed blitz, due to the distance and GEOM's really high reaction.

 

[LTB2000]

People would still vote on the guy with hax, regardless what kind of hax it is.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

If they just do it without reasons, ignore the vote. If they have good reasons, then it just means Goku loses.

 

[Talonmask]

Doesn't Goku have a victory against Sailor Moon? Doesn't she have hax?

 

[RadicalMrR]

Doesn't Goku have a victory against Sailor Moon? Doesn't she have hax?

No he doesn't because everyone agreed it was a hax stomp in favor of Sailor Moon.

But he does have a victory against one of them but from what was said on the thread is that she had little hax and it was a close match as a result

 

[Talonmask]

Ah, I misread.

But that now invalidates LTB's point, because you can have some form of hax and it still be a close fight, not everyone is going to vote for a character just because of hax.

 

[Aparajita]

Okay, then i think the best way to resolve this issue is to ban DBZ threads until they gain some way of hax or hax prevention.

As is, in tier 3s and etc, raw AP is simply not enough.

 

[RadicalMrR]

Ah, I misread.
But that now invalidates LTB's point, because you can have some form of hax and it still be a close fight, not everyone is going to vote for a character just because of hax.

Yes Goku can win if his oppoent has little hax but if you compare her hax to Mikabosi's it's not even a contest.

 

[Talonmask]

I am in agreement of Mikaboshi being removed.

 

[Daarius.ivey]

then can some of Superman's losses be removed two?

 

[Penguinkingpin]

then can some of Superman's losses be removed two?

Okay, first off, the argument needs to be brought on what losses should be removed, why they should be removed, and proof needs to be provided, second, you'd need to create your own thread, this is a thread regarding Goku, not Supes.

 

[RadicalMrR]

then can some of Superman's losses be removed two?

Superman?You mean the guy that can make new powers up on the spot (aka hax)

 

[Penguinkingpin]

@Radical, that's a little too passive aggressive don't ya think?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

One thing about Mikaboshi is that Goku blitzes and one shots millions of times, but it won't even incap Mikaboshi apparently, so eventually, he'll hax Goku.

 

[RadicalMrR]

@Radical, that's a little too passive aggressive don't ya think?

Sorry, it was ment to be seen as a joke on how broken Supes is but I can see as an assholish thing to say.

 

[Penguinkingpin]

One thing about Mikaboshi is that Goku blitzes and one shots millions of times, but it won't even incap Mikaboshi apparently, so eventually, he'll hax Goku.

Immortality plus regen is one way to survive.

 

[LTB2000]

I'm pretty sure there's characters that can kill immortal beings.

 

[Daarius.ivey]

then can some of Superman's losses be removed two?

Okay, first off, the argument needs to be brought on what losses should be removed, why they should be removed, and proof needs to be provided, second, you'd need to create your own thread, this is a thread regarding Goku, not Supes.

sorry my bad.