REDUX ~ Son Goku vs Ness

[Kaltias]

No idea. Will read trough the entire thing (and the profiles ovo) later

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

LOL. Okay.

 

[Kaltias]

>Read thread

>Read profiles

>Still has no earthly idea about the result

Inconclusive for everyone's reasons

 

[Therefir]

I'll wait, because unlike Ness ... Goku will be much stronger.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Waiting for Goku 100% mastery in his new form

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Any more input? If not, I'll go and request this for Inconclusive

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Who do I think would win...hmmm...


Jiren.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Goku doesn't even have that high AP, what is this absurd One-Shot argument?

 

[Theglassman12]

He's superior to IZ, whose baseline low 2-C, not to mention the fact that he gets stronger the longer he fights.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Yes, and Giygas is a far higher level of Low 2-C than IZ, Goku or Jiren

 

[Theglassman12]

How do you know that? They're not in the same series.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Giygas' would-be feat was effortless

 

[Theglassman12]

Ok, and Jiren is casually stronger than IZ

 

[BruceTheBatman]

He's not "casually stronger", but even if he was, he'd still have a long way to go to be comparable to Giygas

 

[Theglassman12]

Ok, even if that's true, how is this related to Ness, who's weaker than Giygas.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

He's still capable of fighting Giygas and is in his same overall league despite his being weaker

 

[Theglassman12]

How is he in the same league as him if he's weaker?

 

[Therefir]

Jiren was casual when Shin stated that he is stronger than Zamasu.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

@glass

You can be comparable to albeit weaker than someone. If that wasn't the case half of the people on this wiki would be tiered differently

@Therefir

They likely sensed Jiren's real power

 

[Theglassman12]

@Bruce Dragon ball characters have shown numerous times to surpress their full strength. Jiren is no different.

 

[Kaltias]

So? If you can sense that casual Jiren = IZ, it's common sense that serious Jiren >>> IZ

 

[AKM sama]

Aren't there too many Low 2-C Goku matches? Since there have been a lot lately, shouldn't we wait for Goku to progress a little more? Like learning ultra instinct completely and getting more stronger on the Low 2-C scale?

All I am saying is that we should wait for Goku vs Jiren again before using both of them, as of right now lol

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Aren't there too many Low 2-C Goku matches? Since there have been a lot lately, shouldn't we wait for Goku to progress a little more? Like learning ultra instinct completely and getting more stronger on the Low 2-C scale?

All I am saying is that we should wait for Goku vs Jiren again before using both of them, as of right now lol

Yeah till he fully masters it