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Hello. I have a question about power scaling in the RZverse.
This is about Reid Reinhard's scaling to Satella, instead of Puck. Right now Reinhard and Puck have the same AP and Durability being used in VS (even the same speed except for reactions).
The revision would be based on the Author's comment that Reinhard will stalemate Satella and that she will be unable to hurt him no matter how long they fight.
A discussion moderator in the RZ thread pointed out that Satella's AP would not count towards Reinhard's Durability, if her attack was a black hole. If that's the case, Reinhard can't scale to her (He did agree, however, that Durability would scale normally if it was not a black hole).
"Real blackholes don't give a durability rating since regardless of durability, without a higher power to protect an object, it gets spaghetti-fied as it's pulled inside."
However, as you probably agree as well, her attack is extremely unlikely to be a 'real' black hole, as was already dismissed for many other fictional depictions of 'black holes'. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Hole_feats_in_fictio
Therefore, I think Reinhard should still scale to Satella properly. I think this should also be the case because if Satella can destroy the world, Reinhard can heal the world at the same time. He is currently being scaled only to Puck, but the Author himself has already clarified that Reinhard equals the power of Satella.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/50y0pa/wnspoiler_authors_various_answers_on_characters/
If he draws his own sword, Reinhard can fight against Volcanica(The Dragon), and makes stalemate on Satella.
http://pastebin.com/8QTMKVDx
Q: Among the characters that have appeared until now, what would the five people with high battle strength look like when they are lined up in sequence?
A: Reinhard, Ram(with horn), Regulus, Sekhmet, and Puck in his True form tied with Roswaal. Even though they are like dangos under Reinhard but these guys are capable of bringing down the white whale by themselves.
It also seems kinda counter-intuitive for Reinhard's Reid form to share the same AP and Durability as Puck, because he wrestled Puck down to the ground with his bare hands at the epicenter of Puck's power while sustaining no damage, before he drew Reid. And he is already like 'peanuts' comparison against Reinhard to the Author anyway, with a higher power-scale available.
So, given these information, what do you believe is more appropriate for power-scaling here - scale Reinhard to Puck, who is much weaker, or scale him to Satella instead, as pointed by the author? In my opinion, Satella's attack being a true black hole is the only thing that would make scaling Reinhard's AP/Durability to her attacks impossible. Puck is the strongest opponent Reinhard fought so far in one of the parallel timelines, but the author has already used WoG to simulate the eventual outcome of a Reinhard vs Satella battle (Satella and Reinhard would utterly obliterate Puck, but they would equal each other).
Any input is appreciated, mods. Thank you.
This is about Reid Reinhard's scaling to Satella, instead of Puck. Right now Reinhard and Puck have the same AP and Durability being used in VS (even the same speed except for reactions).
The revision would be based on the Author's comment that Reinhard will stalemate Satella and that she will be unable to hurt him no matter how long they fight.
A discussion moderator in the RZ thread pointed out that Satella's AP would not count towards Reinhard's Durability, if her attack was a black hole. If that's the case, Reinhard can't scale to her (He did agree, however, that Durability would scale normally if it was not a black hole).
"Real blackholes don't give a durability rating since regardless of durability, without a higher power to protect an object, it gets spaghetti-fied as it's pulled inside."
However, as you probably agree as well, her attack is extremely unlikely to be a 'real' black hole, as was already dismissed for many other fictional depictions of 'black holes'. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Hole_feats_in_fictio
Therefore, I think Reinhard should still scale to Satella properly. I think this should also be the case because if Satella can destroy the world, Reinhard can heal the world at the same time. He is currently being scaled only to Puck, but the Author himself has already clarified that Reinhard equals the power of Satella.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/50y0pa/wnspoiler_authors_various_answers_on_characters/
If he draws his own sword, Reinhard can fight against Volcanica(The Dragon), and makes stalemate on Satella.
http://pastebin.com/8QTMKVDx
Q: Among the characters that have appeared until now, what would the five people with high battle strength look like when they are lined up in sequence?
A: Reinhard, Ram(with horn), Regulus, Sekhmet, and Puck in his True form tied with Roswaal. Even though they are like dangos under Reinhard but these guys are capable of bringing down the white whale by themselves.
It also seems kinda counter-intuitive for Reinhard's Reid form to share the same AP and Durability as Puck, because he wrestled Puck down to the ground with his bare hands at the epicenter of Puck's power while sustaining no damage, before he drew Reid. And he is already like 'peanuts' comparison against Reinhard to the Author anyway, with a higher power-scale available.
So, given these information, what do you believe is more appropriate for power-scaling here - scale Reinhard to Puck, who is much weaker, or scale him to Satella instead, as pointed by the author? In my opinion, Satella's attack being a true black hole is the only thing that would make scaling Reinhard's AP/Durability to her attacks impossible. Puck is the strongest opponent Reinhard fought so far in one of the parallel timelines, but the author has already used WoG to simulate the eventual outcome of a Reinhard vs Satella battle (Satella and Reinhard would utterly obliterate Puck, but they would equal each other).
Any input is appreciated, mods. Thank you.
