Questions about durability feats

[AppleMaker]

Basically, to which tier would those durability feats/anti-feats scale? (Most of them are about regular humans)

1. Tanking a motorcycle crash (just like car crash, but with motorcycle instead)
2. Getting up after being thrown/pushed at tables by regular human
3. Tanking a bodyslam from Usain bolt running at full speed
4. Getting up after falling from staircase (basically this fall got no-sold)
5. Getting incapacitated by tripping (assuming the human who fell was 170 cm tall and didn't land on some vulnerable body parts)
6. Not getting scratched by a cat (basically that person just have a skin that is harder to pierce)
7. Getting your leg stubbed and being incapacitated from the pain
8. Tanking a push that slammed you into drywall and completely broke it
9. Getting incapacitated from the pain cuz your phone fell on face from arm-reach
10. Getting incapacitated from pain after accidentally hitting a bar with your head
11. Having osteoporosis
12. Being 2 meters tall (does it even affect durability at all?)
13. Tanking a hit in the stomach/ribcage with bowling ball

 

[AppleMaker]

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[AppleMaker]

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[ShockingPsychic]

1. Tanking a motorcycle crash (just like car crash, but with motorcycle instead)

Street level at most

2. Getting up after being thrown/pushed at tables by regular human

Human level

3. Tanking a bodyslam from Usain bolt running at full speed

7125.6995389198 J (Street level) according to a KE calculator

4. Getting up after falling from staircase (basically this fall got no-sold)

Human level

5. Getting incapacitated by tripping (assuming the human who fell was 170 cm tall and didn't land on some vulnerable body parts)

Human level

6. Not getting scratched by a cat (basically that person just have a skin that is harder to pierce)

Probably Below Average Human

7. Getting your leg stubbed and being incapacitated from the pain

Human level

8. Tanking a push that slammed you into drywall and completely broke it

Street level

9. Getting incapacitated from the pain cuz your phone fell on face from arm-reach

Completely incapacitated? Below Average Human

10. Getting incapacitated from pain after accidentally hitting a bar with your head

Human level

11. Having osteoporosis

Not really anything by itself

12. Being 2 meters tall (does it even affect durability at all?)

Athlete level

13. Tanking a hit in the stomach/ribcage with bowling ball

Depends on the speed the bowling ball was moving, human to street level tho

 

[AppleMaker]

Completely incapacitated? Below Average Human

I mean by "incapacitated" something like "feel so much pain, that you bawl your eyes out"

 

[AppleMaker]

Also I'm kinda curious, which durability feats are considered 10a? Except obvious "tanking a hit from a 10a human/animal"

 

[Seraphor12]

Also I'm kinda curious, which durability feats are considered 10a? Except obvious "tanking a hit from a 10a human/animal"

It can probably be if a character's durability scales with their ap.

When durability is being discussed, this is especially relevant. If a character can physically attack with a certain level of Attack Potency, showing no sign of pain from said physical attack should be cause for their Durability scaling to their Attack Potency. This is because the character would be forced to withstand a force equal in magnitude to it, and withstanding such a force means the two would be comparable to one another.

 

[AppleMaker]

It can probably be if a character's durability scales with their ap.

It also kinda too obvious, I'm trying to find which feats of durability could be considered 10a by itself, so I can make a hypothetical about a guy with 10a durability but weak af AP and 10b guy with decent AP for example

 

[Seraphor12]

It also kinda too obvious, I'm trying to find which feats of durability could be considered 10a by itself, so I can make a hypothetical about a guy with 10a durability but weak af AP and 10b guy with decent AP for example

Eh... surviving getting slammed into wooden tables, drywall, or weak plaster walls (but not concrete), surviving being hit with blunt objects like wooden bats or non lethal metal rods without major damage, getting grazed by a slow-moving car (10–15 mph), tumbling aside with bruises but not critical injuries.

 

[AppleMaker]

Eh... surviving getting slammed into wooden tables, drywall, or weak plaster walls (but not concrete), surviving being hit with blunt objects like wooden bats or non lethal metal rods without major damage, getting grazed by a slow-moving car (10–15 mph), tumbling aside with bruises but not critical injuries.

Thanks, I guess this could work

 

[KLOL506]

Basically, to which tier would those durability feats/anti-feats scale? (Most of them are about regular humans)

1. Tanking a motorcycle crash (just like car crash, but with motorcycle instead)

Depends on the make and model, and whether or not the person was rammed into a wall or sent flying.

2. Getting up after being thrown/pushed at tables by regular human

Depends on the damage done to the table

3. Tanking a bodyslam from Usain bolt running at full speed

Depends on whether you got slammed into a wall or were sent flying.

4. Getting up after falling from staircase (basically this fall got no-sold)

Unquantifiable.

5. Getting incapacitated by tripping (assuming the human who fell was 170 cm tall and didn't land on some vulnerable body parts)

Unquantifiable

6. Not getting scratched by a cat (basically that person just have a skin that is harder to pierce)

Barely above 10-C.

7. Getting your leg stubbed and being incapacitated from the pain

10-C, but this feels like a worthless nonsense feat.

8. Tanking a push that slammed you into drywall and completely broke it

Depends on how much drywall was destroyed

9. Getting incapacitated from the pain cuz your phone fell on face from arm-reach
10. Getting incapacitated from pain after accidentally hitting a bar with your head
11. Having osteoporosis

Unquantifiable and nonsense feats.

12. Being 2 meters tall (does it even affect durability at all?)

Without weight we can't calculate PE or KE to find durability.

13. Tanking a hit in the stomach/ribcage with bowling ball

Depends on the bowling ball's speed.

 

[AppleMaker]

Depends on the damage done to the table

Assuming that legs of table got broken and it fell apart or it got broken in half

 

[KLOL506]

Assuming that legs of table got broken and it fell apart or it got broken in half

Just calculate the legs then.

 

[AppleMaker]

Depends on the make and model, and whether or not the person was rammed into a wall or sent flying.
Depends on whether you got slammed into a wall or were sent flying.

Were sent flying or kept standing on foot after impact

Depends on how much drywall was destroyed

Assuming it's were average thin walls made of drywall and that push left a hole size of average human's back surface

Depends on the bowling ball's speed.

From average human speed (low end) to fastest human's punch speed (high end)

 

[AppleMaker]

Just calculate the legs then.

Also what if table wasn't damaged at all? And human got pushed approximately at 6,5 m/s

 

[AppleMaker]

Without weight we can't calculate PE or KE to find durability.

86 kg

 

[AppleMaker]

KLOL506?

 

[KLOL506]

86 kg

PE would be used then.

0.5 * 9.81 * 86 * 2 = 843.66 J

 

[KLOL506]

Also what if table wasn't damaged at all? And human got pushed approximately at 6,5 m/s

1300 J assuming 62 kg avg. weight, 9-C.

 

[AppleMaker]

PE would be used then.

What does PE means though?

 

[KLOL506]

Potential Energy

 

[AppleMaker]

KLOL506, sorry for bothering you again, but which durability/ap feats are associated with 10a tier?

 

[IGunProFan2341]

The bare minimum for the drywall feat is 9-C, for The bowling ball feat, depends on how much you are injured, if injured until you are on the ground, at least 10-B, also depending on how fast the bowling ball swings at you, but if it’s those blunt force type like getting hit with it like a baseball and you pretty much take it like someone throwing a basketball at your chest until you get pushed back, 9-C

 

[AppleMaker]

The bare minimum for the drywall feat is 9-C, for The bowling ball feat, depends on how much you are injured, if injured until you are on the ground, at least 10-B, also depending on how fast the bowling ball swings at you, but if it’s those blunt force type like getting hit with it like a baseball and you pretty much take it like someone throwing a basketball at your chest until you get pushed back, 9-C

Thank you so much. I guess my classmate from elementary school was a powerhouse, since he performed drywall feat irl

 

[IGunProFan2341]

KLOL506, sorry for bothering you again, but which durability/ap feats are associated with 10a tier?

Bending spoons, knocking out people, or breaking noses (low end) etc. basically think of 10-A humans like bodybuilders, trained coaches and fighters or spec ops soldiers like Spetsnaz

 

[IGunProFan2341]

Thank you so much. I guess my classmate from elementary school was a powerhouse, since he performed drywall feat irl

Not really, the 9-C drywall feat means you tackle someone into a wall so hard that their back breaks it, or fragment it, the drywall could be very fragile, one streamer who probably broke more drywall or door than your friend did using a chair if I recall correctly, he pretty much looks 10-B, and the part where you mention your friend was in elementary school, it’s basically impossible for a little kid to perform such feat, unless it’s fiction, sorry if I didn’t clarify enough

 

[AppleMaker]

Not really, the 9-C drywall feat means you tackle someone into a wall so hard that their back breaks it, or fragment it, the drywall could be very fragile, one streamer who probably broke more drywall or door than your friend did using a chair if I recall correctly, he pretty much looks 10-B, and the part where you mention your friend was in elementary school, it’s basically impossible for a little kid to perform such feat, unless it’s fiction, sorry if I didn’t clarify enough

Oh, ok. But that guy wasn't my friend, more like an enemy at the time and school bullies thrown him at the wall and well, drywall feat happened

 

[IGunProFan2341]

Oh, ok. But that guy wasn't my friend, more like an enemy at the time and school bullies thrown him at the wall and well, drywall feat happened

Did the wall completely shatter so hard that it send the him into the other side (which is unlikely) or did it crack slightly like those cracks on old walls

 

[AppleMaker]

Did the wall completely shatter so hard that it send the him into the other side (which is unlikely) or did it crack slightly like those cracks on old walls

Drywall got cracked by it

 

[IGunProFan2341]

Not too sure, but probably high-end 10-C or low-end 10-B, since it’s just a elementary school boy, no elementary school boy can perform high-end 10-B or 10-A feats unless they have been training like Bruce Lee or something, but that’s just my guess, as a calc member on this, I did the calculations but it gave me super low values like 17 joules, so either the wall is super fold and fragile or the bully pushed super hard.

 

[Ezaru]

Bending spoons, knocking out people, or breaking noses (low end) etc. basically think of 10-A humans like bodybuilders, trained coaches and fighters or spec ops soldiers like Spetsnaz

Anyone can bend a spoon, you dont need to be trained or a body builder

Its really easy

 

[AppleMaker]

Anyone can bend a spoon, you dont need to be trained or a body builder

Its really easy

I was able to do so since 3rd grade

 

[IGunProFan2341]

Anyone can bend a spoon, you dont need to be trained or a body builder

Even stainless steel? I remember a calculation that was done for the feat and it yielded athlete level, the spoon in question was made out of stainless steel, I find it quite impossible to bend a stainless steel spoon, but if it’s made out of those cheap metal or plastic spoons, then maybe, I’ll say use athlete level since it’s using those thick stainless steel spoons which is common in anime and films


calc

 

[AppleMaker]

@IGunProFan2341 what do you think is considered mid end/high end of 10c in ap and durability?

 

[IGunProFan2341]

mid end/high end of 10c

Not sure, but I think this qualifies for untrained and unfit pre-teens like 9-11 years old kids, the height and weight of the kid also makes a huge difference, if they are a small one, they can be in 10-C, but if they are tall and big, 10-B, I’m not too sure about this tho, you should ask someone more experienced on it.

 

[AppleMaker]

Not sure, but I think this qualifies for untrained and unfit pre-teens like 9-11 years old kids, the height and weight of the kid also makes a huge difference, if they are a small one, they can be in 10-C, but if they are tall and big, 10-B, I’m not too sure about this tho, you should ask someone more experienced on it.

So basically any (even VERY unfit) adult without severe health issues is 10b?

 

[IGunProFan2341]

o basically any (even VERY unfit) adult without severe health issues is 10b?

Since being very unfit means you’re overweight, yes, but it dosent automatically means your AP or striking strength is 10-B, unless proven otherwise by feats or powerscalling, but, AP and striking should be in 10-B, since you’re already an adult.

 

[AppleMaker]

Since being very unfit means you’re overweight

Sometimes it could be underweight person though, he may barely move out of laziness, but also starve himself out of laziness

 

[IGunProFan2341]

Sometimes it could be underweight person though, he may barely move out of laziness, but also starve himself out of laziness

I don’t think that applies to the tier of the specific person, he may go all out when in a fight, laziness should be his weakness instead.

 

[Ezaru]

Even stainless steel? I remember a calculation that was done for the feat and it yielded athlete level, the spoon in question was made out of stainless steel, I find it quite impossible to bend a stainless steel spoon, but if it’s made out of those cheap metal or plastic spoons, then maybe, I’ll say use athlete level since it’s using those thick stainless steel spoons which is common in anime and films


calc

Tbh I am not an expert on spoon material but ive never had issues bending them, and Im hesitant to trust "low level" calcs like that which I feel have too high a margin of error, or rather even a small error can get you from "human" to "superhuman"