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Currently, Barney Stinso is rated at 9-B for the following feats:
- Injured Marshall who survived a meat sub explosion that was strong enough to blow up a manikin
- Stronger than and can injure Ted who fought and took hits from a Goat and stopped Lily and Robin physically from fighting
- Pushed Marshall hard enough to break apart a piece of a wooden table
- Punched a hole in a wall
- Took direct hits from Marshall, who beat up Doug, who could knock out three people.
- Was hit by a speeding bus, and survived, albeit he was injured badly
I have a problem with all these justifications, though.
Meat Sub Explosion: Honestly probably the only reasonable justification here, but still has issues. For starters, this is entirely uncalced. And destroying a manikin on it's own is not necessarily 9-B at all. The scene should be calced, yet isn't even provided on his profile.
Injuring Ted: Why is this even considered 9-B? Ted's best feat, as mentioned, is fighting a goat. Which is a 9-C feat even if they were 100% comparable to them, as goats are only 9-C. Also, stopping two people from fighting makes no sense as an AP feat.
Pushing Marshall hard enough to break a wooden table: This happens IRL all the time, and isn't an indication on it's own of the individual's AP. If I pushed someone off a rooftop, and they died, would that indicate that their force hitting the ground is what I hit them with? Obviously an exaggerated example, but the force someone inflicts upon landing doesn't equate to the force they were pushed with. You'd just need to push hard enough to make them lose their balance, which isn't hard.
Punched a hole in a wall: This isn't what Wall level means. Not every teen named Kyle who's obsessed with Monster energy is 9-B.
Took hits from Marshall: Aight, but like, scaling. This isn't a 9-B feat unless Marshall is 9-B, which isn't really evidenced. The best evidence given is that Doug knocked out 3 people, which has no context and which any reasonably skilled and athletic human can do. You don't have to be 9-B.
Hit by a speeding bus and survived: This happens all the time IRL due to plenty of factors that can influence the survivability of the incident. Especially considering that he was severely injured by it. This is pretty normal for a human, not an indication of being comparable to the force of a speeding bus.
So, with this in mind, what should we do?
Well, frankly, I can't agree with the rating in it's current state and I believe it should be removed. None of the justifications suggest 9-B unless you wank them to an insane extent. The only one that could viably be 9-B would be the meat sub explosion, and that hasn't been calced yet nor is the clip of it happening provided.
I'd suggest changing him to a 9-C rating via scaling to Ted, who is seemingly comparable to IRL goats. And if the clip for the meat sub explosion can be provided, I recommend for it to be calced by the calc group members.
- Injured Marshall who survived a meat sub explosion that was strong enough to blow up a manikin
- Stronger than and can injure Ted who fought and took hits from a Goat and stopped Lily and Robin physically from fighting
- Pushed Marshall hard enough to break apart a piece of a wooden table
- Punched a hole in a wall
- Took direct hits from Marshall, who beat up Doug, who could knock out three people.
- Was hit by a speeding bus, and survived, albeit he was injured badly
I have a problem with all these justifications, though.
Meat Sub Explosion: Honestly probably the only reasonable justification here, but still has issues. For starters, this is entirely uncalced. And destroying a manikin on it's own is not necessarily 9-B at all. The scene should be calced, yet isn't even provided on his profile.
Injuring Ted: Why is this even considered 9-B? Ted's best feat, as mentioned, is fighting a goat. Which is a 9-C feat even if they were 100% comparable to them, as goats are only 9-C. Also, stopping two people from fighting makes no sense as an AP feat.
Pushing Marshall hard enough to break a wooden table: This happens IRL all the time, and isn't an indication on it's own of the individual's AP. If I pushed someone off a rooftop, and they died, would that indicate that their force hitting the ground is what I hit them with? Obviously an exaggerated example, but the force someone inflicts upon landing doesn't equate to the force they were pushed with. You'd just need to push hard enough to make them lose their balance, which isn't hard.
Punched a hole in a wall: This isn't what Wall level means. Not every teen named Kyle who's obsessed with Monster energy is 9-B.
Took hits from Marshall: Aight, but like, scaling. This isn't a 9-B feat unless Marshall is 9-B, which isn't really evidenced. The best evidence given is that Doug knocked out 3 people, which has no context and which any reasonably skilled and athletic human can do. You don't have to be 9-B.
Hit by a speeding bus and survived: This happens all the time IRL due to plenty of factors that can influence the survivability of the incident. Especially considering that he was severely injured by it. This is pretty normal for a human, not an indication of being comparable to the force of a speeding bus.
So, with this in mind, what should we do?
Well, frankly, I can't agree with the rating in it's current state and I believe it should be removed. None of the justifications suggest 9-B unless you wank them to an insane extent. The only one that could viably be 9-B would be the meat sub explosion, and that hasn't been calced yet nor is the clip of it happening provided.
I'd suggest changing him to a 9-C rating via scaling to Ted, who is seemingly comparable to IRL goats. And if the clip for the meat sub explosion can be provided, I recommend for it to be calced by the calc group members.