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Professional Wrestling General Discussion Thread

MonkeyOfLife said:
How exactly is it an outlier?
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Because these characters with otherwise peak human speed suddenly showing “faster than the eye can see” speeds, something which is usually treated as subsonic, for a comedic segment would be nonsensical. It would also be ridiculous because this video shows Big E blitzing the other two new day members in a race, and uhhhh, that is massively inconsistent with the fact all 3 of them fight on par with each other when they team up
 
Pikaman said:
Because these characters with otherwise peak human speed suddenly showing “faster than the eye can see” speeds, something which is usually treated as subsonic, for a comedic segment would be nonsensical. It would also be ridiculous because this video shows Big E blitzing the other two new day members in a race, and uhhhh, that is massively inconsistent with the fact all 3 of them fight on par with each other when they team up
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So it's not really outlier...
Pikaman said:
Because these characters with otherwise peak human speed suddenly showing “faster than the eye can see” speeds
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Which is ok because they have shown superhuman strength and powers...
Pikaman said:
for a comedic segment would be nonsensical.
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So gag...
Pikaman said:
It would also be ridiculous because this video shows Big E blitzing the other two new day members in a race, and uhhhh, that is massively inconsistent with the fact all 3 of them fight on par with each other when they team up
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What if big E doesn't go all out in speed? You can't just think you are already right via your opinion...

He could for example use his speed for power instead plus in WWE they can't truly show big E blitzing in a match
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
What if big E doesn't go all out in speed? You can't just think you are already right via your opinion...
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If he could speed blitz everyone he would’ve never lost a title match in his life lmao, he has no reason to hold back in the biggest matches in his career


MonkeyOfLife said:
Which is ok because they have shown superhuman strength and powers..
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You can’t upgrade from Peak Human to Subsonic and say it’s not an outlier purely because it would not be the first superhuman stat or hax ability in the verse...


MonkeyOfLife said:
So it's not really outlier...
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It absolutely is, go ask any Content or Thread Mod (or 99% of members) if that clip is grounds for a speed upgrade and they will tell you it’s a one time gag that is a direct contradiction of both previous feats and scaling on both a fundamental level and a massive scale. Speed upgrades from Peak Human to Subsonic are big deals, you don’t get stuff like that passed with flimsy evidence like this
 
Pikaman said:
you don’t get stuff like that passed with flimsy evidence like this
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It definitely needs more evidence... Never said otherwise, completely disagree with outlier
Pikaman said:
if that clip is grounds for a speed upgrade and they will tell you it’s a one time gag that is a direct contradiction of both previous feats and scaling on both a fundamental level and a massive scale.
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A gag feat isn't a contradiction, it's a feat not to be taken seriously or something he cannot actually do... When you say outlier it basically to me says subsonic speed is impossible to get in that verse...
 
Preventing a character from being upgraded because of a single feat that is inconsistent with the rest of the feats shown in the verse is the exact definition of an outlier, so I still don't understand your point.
 
Shmooply said:
Preventing a character from being upgraded because of a single feat that is inconsistent with the rest of the feats shown in the verse
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The rest of the feats? You are acting like their speed rating are stated and or calced at...
 
Because they literally don't need calcs or statements for their current speed ratings due to being in-shape athletes? Where are you even going with this?
 
It's the 🌟outlier🌟 for me
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Tbf, there are plenty of statements in the verse that can just be passed off as an expression.

There were many times where commentators talk about a wrestler having "cat-like agility," which I feel like is something that shouldn't be ignored.
 
If it’s speed feats you want I’m working on a calculation for Bianca Belair, could someone help me by finding out the FPS of this video and then telling me how to find how many frames are in any given time frame? Normally Demonic would be the one I’d ask for this stuff but well…
 
Pikaman said:
If it’s speed feats you want I’m working on a calculation for Bianca Belair, could someone help me by finding out the FPS of this video and then telling me how to find how many frames are in any given time frame? Normally Demonic would be the one I’d ask for this stuff but well…
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That's really, really hard to calculate.

If she's able to casually outspeed male athletes, I'm sure that'd put her at Superhuman speeds.

There's also another speed feat I've found:

Lio Rush was shown to move this fast on different occasions, making him an extremely hard wrestler to track.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
That's really, really hard to calculate
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Really? Pixel scale using Bianca’s head for measurements, get timeframe, measure the length of the shot in terms of distance Bianca ran to cross from one side of it to the other, Speed = Distance/Time
 
Pikaman said:
Really? Pixel scale using Bianca’s head for measurements, get timeframe, measure the length of the shot in terms of distance Bianca ran to cross from one side of it to the other, Speed = Distance/Time
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That video is so short, plus the camera cuts are very abrupt. It's not the best visual tbh.
 
So Superhuman speed WWE. I can live with that.

There are definitely WWE characters who should be faster (I.E. Rey Mysterio, Ricochet, etc.), as well as people who are comparable in terms of speed, so this is definitely a worthy speed upgrade for the verse.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I can live with that.
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You say it like you were hoping for Subsonic 😭


some hard truths

AP will never reach 9-A unless new feats happen

Speed will never reach Subsonic unless new feats happen

LS actually nvm sky’s the limit for that shit who knows what the next Strowman will do
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
There are definitely WWE characters who should be faster (I.E. Rey Mysterio, Ricochet, etc.)
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Legends that specialised in agility could possibly upscale, but the whole point of the promo was Bianca is the fastest, so anybody around wrestling when that promo cut downscales, if only very slightly in the case of The God Tiers and above
 
Pikaman said:
LS actually nvm sky’s the limit for that shit who knows what the next Strowman will do
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We have that Andre The Giant feat which has never been approved yet.

Pikaman said:
AP will never reach 9-A unless new feats happen
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Still hoping for the ring breaking feats to get calculated (though I highly doubt it will).

Pikaman said:
Legends that specialised in agility could possibly upscale, but the whole point of the promo was Bianca is the fastest, so anybody around wrestling when that promo cut downscales, if only very slightly in the case of The God Tiers and above
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So you're going out on a limb and saying Bianca is a God Tier? The WWE also says she's the StrongEST, but we all know for a fact that she's far from the strongest in the WWE (she is very strong though).
 
Pikaman said:
Honestly I care about 10 times more for TV continuity than Game Continuity from a VSBW perspective
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Fair lol

Well, from a VSBW perspective, if the game feats are significantly better than the TV feats (which they likely are), then we'll have better matchups than the TV WWE.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Fair lol

Well, from a VSBW perspective, if the game feats are significantly better than the TV feats (which they likely are), then we'll have better matchups than the TV WWE.
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Well speaking of good matchups @Adem_Warlock69 applied the AP revisions, King shit right there man tysm, I owe you a serious favour. So now we can do new vs threads for the TV continuity, such as...
 
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