Powers & Abilities Evaluations Thread

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

The problem is that it literally shows the History of someone, even if they reversed in time iirc, and shows what they did in those regressions despite their body not being the same one. Additionally, the Helices are something that is formed, but Yin-Yang, which is what they get information from, exists within the bodies of people.

There is also a statement right after that about the being who did this, with them frolicking between history and life, whatever that means.

Still, if it doesn't seem like it, I'll look for other examples. Thanks!

I think it's really strange. Although if it is like that then I think without further info just stick with the yin-yang/history bit since history can still accurately be called information or a record of what happened in time.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Makes sense, I'll need to read more to see if they are just talking about history alone. Thanks!

 

[CodeCCLL]

Double Helices, which are just Yin-Yang, exist within the bodies of people (and I think everything else, as Yin-Yang make up the world), and they are considered the Information and History of life. Will those who manipulate such Helices, or destroys them, get Info Type 2, or nah?

As of the first two scans, only the information medium of life and history is manipulated, that is, only type 1 information manipulation.

I can't say much about the third scan without knowing the verse or asking some questions about the context and wording. Depending on what "earth" is in particular, the information type 2 may or may not.

it's talking about DNA which can be said to "record" the history of a persons genetics or evolution and is foundation of life

So I don't think the expression could be that fancy, it's more like one of those things where you take a real life concept and try to adapt it to fiction.

 

[Rikimarox2]

By "Earth", it just means the tribes. There are three tribes, Heaven, Earth, and Heart tribe. Heaven tribe is humans, and they try to control fate. Earth tribe are Demons and beings who see the Yin-Yang of the world (which exists everywhere), and its mixing into Taiji, which makes the space of the world itself.

The problem about the information stuff, is that it uses/reads the Yin-Yang, which... exists everywhere, including space. And it's a bit confusing, but Qi is considered life itself, and Qi is everywhere, including rocks and etc... and Yin-Yang are Qi as well.

Of course, it could be that I'm grasping for straws, but idk about Info Type 2 much ngl.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

A characters can manipulate the information that make up the world or change their state from 1(exist) into 0(doesn't exist), with information encompassing physicality, spirituality, imaginary and concepts.

What is this ?

 

[Rikimarox2]

...info manip type 2...? It's written right there...?

And, well, EE and whatever other does the characters do with the info stuff.

 

[Vietthai96]

Would this qualify for Info Type 2?



Double Helices, which are just Yin-Yang, exist within the bodies of people (and I think everything else, as Yin-Yang make up the world), and they are considered the Information and History of life. Will those who manipulate such Helices, or destroys them, get Info Type 2, or nah?

Info 1

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Is being able to regenerate "every part of the body" / 体のあらゆる部分 (karada no arayuru bubun) from only the head enough for High-Mid Regeneration; i.e., "[regenerating] from being blown/cut to pieces, brain included, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a finger, or the heart"? Because, currently, Namekians only have Mid Regeneration, which is "[regenerating] from decapitation or severe brain damage". Is restoring an entire body from the head equivalent to regenerating from decapitation?

 

[CodeCCLL]

Is being able to regenerate "every part of the body" / 体のあらゆる部分 (karada no arayuru bubun) from only the head enough for High-Mid

For High-Mid regeneration, the body, including the brain, needs to be reduced into parts and regenerated, therefore no.

Is restoring an entire body from the head equivalent to regenerating from decapitation?

No, for example, think of starfish regeneration, the divided part can only fully regenerate itself if it gets a share of the central sphere. The part that doesn't get a share of the central sphere dies. The central sphere would in this case be the brain, so there is a big difference between regenerating as long as the brain is not fragmented and regenerating from a fragmented brain.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Ah, gotcha; High-Mid actively requires the head and/or brain be damaged.

 

[Franstel]

Which ability would it be to summon a gaz that make those that breath it laugh to the point they can't breath and die from suffocation.

 

[Rikimarox2]

If someone could take a single layer of space, and recreate the entire universe from it, would that imply/grant anything?

Bump on this one. Here's the feat;

Spoiler

Without wasting time, he accessed his Science and Technology World. He separated another layer of space and recreated the universe, including the Earth, by manipulating the fate of that second layer of that space.
However, the Earth he created was based on primitive humans when Homo Sapiens had just become the ruler of the wild. Wang Wei was not satisfied, so he made other layers, some of which are when Homo Sapiens and different types of humans like Homo Erectus or Home Neathandalis lived together with many ancient animals long extinct. - Ch. 805

He had divided this world into dimensional layers, each containing different civilizations with possibilities to evolve and improve. Wang Wei headed to the highest layer where the Watchers - an immortal race that he created tasked with observing and recording all knowledge and development of these civilizations. The Watchers contained a library with all this universe's information, history, and innovation since the beginning of time.

Wang Wei had a deep frown as he reviewed the information. He started with the development of [Earth], and he was not happy with the result. In many layers, different types of humans eventually become the dominant species. Although statistically, Homo Sapiens are more likely to be the final victor, it was not always the case.

Then, these species would evolve until they took the stars, spread to the universe, created Quantum Technology to explore other dimensional layers, and started their path of confronting higher dimensional civilizations. Wang Wei was more than happy with how science and technology developed; his dissatisfaction was with how the other aspect of society evolved.

At this point, I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this.

Regardless, if an attack was stated to ignore all defenses, but it wasn't just a physical attack, and opponents have resistances to abilities, would that be Resistance Negation or nah?

Spoiler

Alas, his efforts were futile. Wang Wei's attack instantly atomized him. No, the process was even worse; he annihilated every aspect of his existence, including his soul and Dao.

'The attack was similar to when he attacked across a different parallel universe–it completely ignored all my defenses.’

 

[Deonment]

Bump on this one. Here's the feat;

At this point, I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this.

Regardless, if an attack was stated to ignore all defenses, but it wasn't just a physical attack, and opponents have resistances to abilities, would that be Resistance Negation or nah?

Creation and Spatial Manip

Resistance Negation yeah

 

[sukuna171]

Is this concept 1, 2, or 3

Spoiler

Malna looked at Yogiri Takatou in disbelief. Eyes appeared. Like they had been there the whole time, just shut until now. Eyelids opened to reveal countless eyes all around her. That was the embodiment of the concept of sight. It was a sign that Yogiri Takatou was aware of her existence. He knew she was looking at him, and he was looking back at her.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Is this concept 1, 2, or 3

Spoiler

Malna looked at Yogiri Takatou in disbelief. Eyes appeared. Like they had been there the whole time, just shut until now. Eyelids opened to reveal countless eyes all around her. That was the embodiment of the concept of sight. It was a sign that Yogiri Takatou was aware of her existence. He knew she was looking at him, and he was looking back at her.

It seems like just a fancy wording, but if it is not, would be type 3 concept because this is Yogiri's concept of sight.

 

[sukuna171]

It seems like just a fancy wording, but if it is not, would be type 3 concept because this is Yogiri's concept of sight.

the eyes are everywhere, including in different timelines. Does that change the type of concept?

 

[Rikimarox2]

What is an ability to turn something from real to unreal? Or from truth to false and vice versa for both?

Feng Heng calmly watched as these terrifying creatures that only exist in myths and legends rushed toward him; his demeanor was calm throughout the process, and he simply closed his eyes.

When Buddha closes his eyes, the world turns from being real to nothing but his imagination; it changes from truth to illusion. And Feng Heng did the same to these Innate Demon Gods.

He used Yin-Yang Dao to control Real and Unreal, reverting these Innate Demon Gods to their unreal state.

Then, she used her Yin-Yang Dao to control Truth and False. She created a false version of herself with the Nine Extremity Foundation and combined it with her probability. Then, she reversed false into truth, materializing that false version of herself she had created.

Additionally, I've heard that Nonduality is actually a bit more stricter than I initially thought, with the whole logical negation and whatnot. So, would True and False being a duality in a verse, make it so that every duality in a verse fits the ND criteria?

Additionally, there is a bit more complicated stuff that I'm not sure if this is the right place, but if normal Duality exists in verse, ie Yin-Yang, then Taiji, and Wuji (ie from one to two to three to all myriad things), and then another state (Nothingness, above Wuji) that is above all of those, would those that are at Nothingness stage fit the TD3 criteria? Scans are probably needed, but I just want a general idea if it was shown that Nothingness is different from those before it.

 

[Lycoris4812]

What is an ability to turn something from real to unreal? Or from truth to false and vice versa for both?

Subjective Reality.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

What is an ability to turn something from real to unreal? Or from truth to false and vice versa for both?


Additionally, I've heard that Nonduality is actually a bit more stricter than I initially thought, with the whole logical negation and whatnot. So, would True and False being a duality in a verse, make it so that every duality in a verse fits the ND criteria?

Additionally, there is a bit more complicated stuff that I'm not sure if this is the right place, but if normal Duality exists in verse, ie Yin-Yang, then Taiji, and Wuji (ie from one to two to three to all myriad things), and then another state (Nothingness, above Wuji) that is above all of those, would those that are at Nothingness stage fit the TD3 criteria? Scans are probably needed, but I just want a general idea if it was shown that Nothingness is different from those before it.

True and False are inherently logical negations that on their own would even qualify for type 2 ND if one exists outside.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Spoiler

Oh I'd be eating good.

How would that apply to Wuji, for example? Since Truth and Falsehood are just part of Yin-Yang. And what about true nothingness?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Spoiler

Oh I'd be eating good.

How would that apply to Wuji, for example? Since Truth and Falsehood are just part of Yin-Yang. And what about true nothingness?

Wuji seems to have a good chance at being type 3 transduality.
that it transcends
copy and pasting from @Deonment

A
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A and B
Not A and B and A and B

For whatever is beyond Wuji it'd probably be 1 state above it.

 

[Vietthai96]

What is an ability to turn something from real to unreal? Or from truth to false and vice versa for both?


Additionally, I've heard that Nonduality is actually a bit more stricter than I initially thought, with the whole logical negation and whatnot. So, would True and False being a duality in a verse, make it so that every duality in a verse fits the ND criteria?

Additionally, there is a bit more complicated stuff that I'm not sure if this is the right place, but if normal Duality exists in verse, ie Yin-Yang, then Taiji, and Wuji (ie from one to two to three to all myriad things), and then another state (Nothingness, above Wuji) that is above all of those, would those that are at Nothingness stage fit the TD3 criteria? Scans are probably needed, but I just want a general idea if it was shown that Nothingness is different from those before it.

Yin-Yang with Truth and False is Duality, textbook one

Hmm, Nothingness could be ND or TD type 3

 

[Wesker018]

You need QS for TD

 

[Rikimarox2]

Would this be enough for Acausality Type 5?

"I tried to transcend Karma, to become free from its restrictions. But I failed."

"So, you choose to fuse with it?" asked Wang Wei.

"Yes. I became the embodiment of Karma itself in this world: the origin of all karma. And to my surprise, I've achieved the transcendence I desire."

"It does make sense. As the source of Karma, it's normal to be no longer affected by it. So, how did you bear such a heavy burden?” - Ch. 557

Edit: And what would this qualify as?

"That's fine as well. What about battle applications? Did you come up with something?"

"In fact, I did," replied the incarnation, who stood up from his sitting position. He looked at Wang Wei and said: "Attack me with your Chaos Flame." Then, the incarnation created a wound on his forearm with his left finger.

"Alright," said Wang Wei before creating a multi-colored flamed in his hand and throwing it at the incarnation. At first, it appeared as if the latter was rapidly burning. But soon, the process ended, and the wound on the incarnation healed.
Wang Wei squinted his eyes, "Purpose Manipulation."

"Exactly. I changed the purpose of your Chaos Flame from 'burning' to 'healing.' You can imagine the wide application of such a technique."

Indeed, there were many applications of this ability. Wang Wei could alter his fleshly body's purpose, allowing it to use more force than usual. He could change the purpose of his enemy's attacks and make them help him instead or render them entirely useless. - Ch. 558

I thought it'd be Causality Manipulation, but considering how it can change the purpose of anything (ie make it so that his body can unleash more strength, or make it so the purpose of an attack is to heal him instead), I'm conflicted, especially as Causality Manipulation already exists in verse, yet it's distinct from this ability.

 

[sukuna171]

does this grant anything

Spoiler

“You know, since I can manipulate time, I can manipulate space as well. So I tried shrinking the space between us.”

“What does that even mean?!”

Tomochika was baffled. Yogiri didn’t much understand what was happening either.

Space and time are part of a single indivisible whole, so control over one may lead to control over the other, said Mokomoko. But an opponent with such unlimited control may prove quite a nuisance.

 

[Deonment]

Would this be enough for Acausality Type 5?

Edit: And what would this qualify as?

I thought it'd be Causality Manipulation, but considering how it can change the purpose of anything (ie make it so that his body can unleash more strength, or make it so the purpose of an attack is to heal him instead), I'm conflicted, especially as Causality Manipulation already exists in verse, yet it's distinct from this ability.

Nah, not enough for type 5 considering no statements of being uninteractable

Power Modification lol

 

[Tahoy49574]

What goes on the Durability section of invulnerable characters ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Could you get BDE type 2 for being the source of order that govern concepts(time, space...) while transcending them?

 

[Wonder_of_Fantasy]

Could you get BDE type 2 for being the source of order that govern concepts(time, space...) while transcending them?

Maybe? Depends on the context of how the character is "transcending them".

 

[RoTt35]

Would the following statements grant any abilities? Specifically her having the power/fire of Creation that transcends all the rules and realities:

There was a fire within her, and she assumed that it had to do with her leg, that her power was somehow finding a way to fuse the bone back together, but as it grew, as her thoughts splintered and the fear blossomed that she wouldn't be equal to the task before her, it became a radiance too astounding to be described, too powerful to be measured, as though she were witnessing within herself the primal moment of Creation, the lighting of the first spark within the infinite firmament.

The passion was rising in her, glorious and hungry; the more she drew on her power, the more there was for her to claim, increasingly desperate to be unleashed. It was a song more ageless than the stars, dating from the moment of their birth, when Creation came into being as an inconceivable outrush of matter and energy. Water turned incandescent at her touch, the ground at her feet fused instantly to trinitite glass, as if seared by the breath of the sun itself. Stellar prominences danced in her eyes, over her skin, filling her with a yearning as inexpressible as it was unfulfilled.

There was so much more darkness than light. The darkness was the natural state of things. And yet the alternative terrified her so much more, because it was a light that seemed to Jean to come from the fire in her soul, the transcendent and all-consuming passion that had destroyed Scott and Xavier, and that terrified her so much more.

Perfect memory, coupled to the power to transcend all the rules and realities.

They were black eyes, doll's eyes, predator's eyes, and deep in the heart of them burned the fires of Creation itself.

 

[Manas_ciel_sensei]

Is affecting a (possibly infinite) void/space that transcend space-time(multiverse) a L1-C range ?

Said void encompass the universes, separate them and influence their time difference.

Space-time continuum alone scales to 4d(multiversal+) and since the void/space transcends the space-time continuum then affecting it does give you 5d ap and range.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

What do you get for these ?

Sensing a familiar presence behind her, she turned around and said, “I see you survived, Hearst-sama.”

“Us apostles are simultaneously one and infinity. As an immortal being, it would be impossible for me to die.”

It was indeed the same Hearst that Meiru had sealed away that came to stand next to Lelei. The injuries she’d suffered from Revival Reversal were completely gone.

“There’s no need to act humble. We all know that you’re the first of our lord’s apostles, as well as his favorite.” Zero Vol 6 p195

"Well, if you say so. In that case, think you can try accessing the apostle’s memories?”

“Let’s see...”

Hajime’s plan made sense. There were tons of apostles, and they all had a shared memory bank, meaning their memories were a huge repository of historical knowledge. Thus, if we sifted through their memories, we’d surely be able to find some countermeasures against them.

Unfortunately, there was a problem. Apostles’ memories weren’t stored in their brains like they were with regular people. At the very least, I’d never once been able to access any of this apostle’s memories. I’d actually tried to look at the apostle’s memories before out of curiosity, but I hadn’t been able to find anything. Vol 12 p293

「This is something slightly off topic but, we apostles were puppets without a soul as already master knows, but at the same time we were also a record storage of history.」

「Aa, if I remember right you guys all shared your memory with each other.」

「Ii」

Hajime looked at Netemp Mother with suspicion. Are you planning to play stupid again? His eyes said.

「I’m sorry master. It completely became a habit……」

「I-I see……」

Netemp Mother was pressing her fingertips on her lips shyly. It seemed that she was saying the truth. Apparently Netemp and Etemp still continued to use “Ii” in the place of “yes” even now.

She cleared her throat.

「It seems that even an existence of a soulless doll like us can have a vast amount of conception dwelling within due to the record of an eternity of history and our position as apostles of god.」Ch 387

AE(1 or 2) info type 1 ?

 

[Tahoy49574]

Would this Regeneration actually be Mid-Low ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

What type of AE is this ?

『……It can’t be helped.』

The divine spirit who somehow recovered his calm muttered with small voice.

Actually, a clear death didn’t exist for divine spirit. Although, they also weren’t invincible. Because they were existence of nature phenomenon with their own will, their existence was depending on their will――in other word their mental strength.

In other words, if they were damaged to the extent they lost the willpower to regenerate, they would lose strength or get forced into dormant state for a while. They would become unable to materialize for a few years to dozens of years. Ch 333

 

[Rikimarox2]

Simple question, how would we index an ability that allows someone to be "free" of something, such as force, elements, and even the laws/concepts of the world, and be unaffected by them?

I've asked this before, but I didn't really get a concrete answer. The character in question can be free of anything, including Domains, which change the very laws of the world around them, and the character can just be free of it and be unaffected by it.

The whole "free" thing is due to the character using the Concept of "Freedom", which is the anti-thesis of Fate (including time, space, causality, and pretty much everything) and is unaffected by it.

 

[sukuna171]

is this fear manipulation for orxy

The Taken King marches on Quria's Hydra-hull, armed with blade and magic, cloaked in ancient cloth, and the universe wails in horror around him. Quria's physics models and toy worlds choke and crash

 

[Deonment]

Simple question, how would we index an ability that allows someone to be "free" of something, such as force, elements, and even the laws/concepts of the world, and be unaffected by them?

I've asked this before, but I didn't really get a concrete answer. The character in question can be free of anything, including Domains, which change the very laws of the world around them, and the character can just be free of it and be unaffected by it.

The whole "free" thing is due to the character using the Concept of "Freedom", which is the anti-thesis of Fate (including time, space, causality, and pretty much everything) and is unaffected by it.

Power Null/Resistance, I would once more recommend the former as that is what is occurring here, even if it isn't the most conventional instance of power null, it is still negating the effect of the things on them

Could (in retrospect) be type 5 aca, considering how he frees himself from causality, time, and becomes unaffected by things he frees himself from, but I can see that being scuffed for a couple of reasons

 

[Manas_ciel_sensei]

Simple question, how would we index an ability that allows someone to be "free" of something, such as force, elements, and even the laws/concepts of the world, and be unaffected by them?

I've asked this before, but I didn't really get a concrete answer. The character in question can be free of anything, including Domains, which change the very laws of the world around them, and the character can just be free of it and be unaffected by it.

The whole "free" thing is due to the character using the Concept of "Freedom", which is the anti-thesis of Fate (including time, space, causality, and pretty much everything) and is unaffected by it.

Looks like type 4 Acausality to me.

 

[Franstel]

In Code Lyoko, there's something called the digital sea. In the cartoon it is treated as one of the greatest threat to our protagonists, some other characters can resist it but the problem it that we're never told exactly what it do to fall in the digital sea.

The known effects of the digital sea are making the bodies of those that touch it disappear in an explosion of light but it does not kill them instead they are just gone, lost forever but still alive and somewhat conscious.

So what would be the power of the digital sea be and what would it grant to resist it ?

 

[Manas_ciel_sensei]

In Code Lyoko, there's something called the digital sea. In the cartoon it is treated as one of the greatest threat to our protagonists, some other characters can resist it but the problem it that we're never told exactly what it do to fall in the digital sea.

The known effects of the digital sea are making the bodies of those that touch it disappear in an explosion of light but it does not kill them instead they are just gone, lost forever but still alive and somewhat conscious.

So what would be the power of the digital sea be and what would it grant to resist it ?

So it's kinda like the 'white whale ' in re:zero