Potential Kid Icarus AP upgrade

[Tankirbmon]

Currently the verse scales off of this calc, It uses the curvature of the earth to place the Aurum Brain fortress at 24,000m in diameter.

I noticed while watching some gameplay that Palutena says this in chapter 17 "That aurum ship is the size of a continent" It also seems that this piece of dialogue was also in the original japanese

I think visually it's clear that the Aurum Brain Fortress is larger than this ship. In addition It takes about 45s for them to make it through the continent size ship and about 1 minute and 20 seconds to fly to the center of the aurum Brain fortress, supporting that it's larger. So replace the diameter of the aurum Brain fortress with the diameter of australia at 4,000,000m. This increases the distance it moved, and it's mass. I did a calc this would end up bumping the series to Large Planet level.

Kid Icarus Uprising: Phyrrhon Pushes Aurum Brain Redo

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Dust_Collector]

Was planning on bringing this up myself at some point but never got around to it lol, yeah I think it's possible to get 5-A outta this taking that statement seriously, the ship not appearing as that large in game could be due to it being a 3DS game (Kinda like how the moon in Majora's Mask is town sized in game but lore wise is an actual full sized moon).

 

[Hypertornado099]

Was planning on bringing this up myself at some point but never got around to it lol, yeah I think it's possible to get 5-A outta this taking that statement seriously, the ship not appearing as that large in game could be due to it being a 3DS game (Kinda like how the moon in Majora's Mask is town sized in game but lore wise is an actual full sized moon).

Its not difficult for a 3DS game to depict something as being continental sized though

 

[Dust_Collector]

Its not difficult for a 3DS game to depict something as being continental sized though

True, it's partly why I took so long to get around to it.

Could argue the reason it couldn't depict the ship as continent sized is becaise they needed it to fly alongside Pit without taking up the whole screen. Then again this is the same series that has stars that are legitimately building sized so maybe their world also has comically small continents.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Are there any cutscenes that showcase its size?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I heard plans about this though a calculation blog is preferable for the 5-A calculation.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Are there any cutscenes that showcase its size?

Only cutscene we get is the Aurum Brain (Which is where the continent sized ships dock) being pushed by Pyrrhon, but none of the ships are in that shot.

 

[Tankirbmon]

I heard plans about this though a calculation blog is preferable for the 5-A calculation.

here's a blog post using a direct size replacement.

Kid Icarus Uprising: Phyrrhon Pushes Aurum Brain Redo

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Tankirbmon]

Its not difficult for a 3DS game to depict something as being continental sized though

eh the game has severely down sized things before. Chapter 8 we fly chasing after a pirate ship. Then once we get inside of it it's much larger than it was during the flying section.

Chapter 18 floating islands with buildings are flung at us and the buildings are much smaller than when we get on the land section of the same area in chapter 20

If it doesn't bother making pirates ships and buildings the proper size then it definitely wouldn't make a properly sized continent, Especially if you're not gonna be walking around exploring it. So I'd say statements about size would be more accurate than literally calcing how large the ship is.

also you have to go through the ship so if they did make it accurate to how large it should be then everything would be flying by at mach 250 which would be a visual mess. So I don't think it would have been viable for them to actually make it continental in size

 

[Dust_Collector]

here's a blog post using a direct size replacement.

Kid Icarus Uprising: Phyrrhon Pushes Aurum Brain Redo

vsbattles.fandom.com

40 Yottatons and Class Z, that's pretty good.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

40 Yottatons and Class Z, that's pretty good.

Looking like good news

 

[The_Pink_God]

Why Australia?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Why Australia?

That's our standard go to size for anything stated to be continent sized since it's the smallest one

 

[Hypertornado099]

Do we have any shots of the Kid Icarus planet?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Why Australia?

It's merely described as size of a continent, size of Australia is used for lowball's sake.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Do we have any shots of the Kid Icarus planet?

We never really get a good shot of it beyond being able to see the clouds and bits of the ocean not blocked off by them every now and then in the chapter this feat happens

 

[Dust_Collector]

Bump I guess

 

[Dust_Collector]

Listen I just wanna make Pit vs Link

Just wanted to mention but if this is accepted then any character in the series with an "At least" attached to their ratings should probably have it removed given the sheer gap between the calc and the higher limits of Large Planet level.

 

[CloverDragon03]

This is preferable to use over my calc, yeah. I didn't know the Aurum Brain had a statement like this even though I used to play this game religiously

 

[Dust_Collector]

It's easy to miss statements like this tbh, there's so much dialogue (Best in Nintendo history this is not up for debate) that there's a ton of things said in the game that fall through the cracks.

 

[CloverDragon03]

That's true, my brain just cares about the either hilarious or compelling dialogue so stuff like this just flies over my head. Anyways, I've approved the calc. I see no reason to not use this over mine

 

[Tankirbmon]

This is preferable to use over my calc, yeah. I didn't know the Aurum Brain had a statement like this even though I used to play this game religiously

To be completely transparent:

The aurum brain is not the thing being referred to by the statement, it is a ship within the level that tries to crash into pit. I am making the assumption that the ship is smaller or the same size as the Aurum Brain Fortress which I feel is fair considering how it appears smaller than the fortress within the game itself. As well as the fact that the ship had to be created within an even larger facility. It's established that aurum ships are created within aurum hives. So considering the Aurum Brain Fortress is the largest known Arum facility and other ships have been seen exiting it, it's not illogical to assume it either created or docked the continent sized ship and thus must be at least comparable in size.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I’m aware. I think that’s a very reasonable assumption given that the Aurum Brain is at the heart of all this