Post Downgrade: DIO vs. Alucard (Grace)

[DMUA]

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[DragonEmperor23]

So if Dio's going to die due to sun before killing Alucard's souls, his freezing doesn't work, and his mind control doesn't work, then what's the possible win condition for Dio here?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

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You wot mate?

 

[DMUA]

He could probably freeze him harder. It's just his actual feats of using it on a scale that lets him freeze someone entirely. Or, just, run really really far and find a super good hiding spot Alucard can't just blast open.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

He could probably freeze him harder. Or just, run really really far and find a super good hiding spot Alucard can't just blast open.

"He could probably freeze him harder"

What do you mean by this?

"Or just, run really really far and find a super good hiding spot Alucard can't just blast open."

What hiding spot is going to help when Alucard has enhanced senses and his TK would be able to destroy anything in the park?

 

[DMUA]

Stand Jumping can cover a lot of ground. He could probably just head over to somewhere with a deep bunker Alucard can't blast open, and he could probably get there fast enough to lose him.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

So his win condition... is running away?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Seems a bit unfair

Use a Hamon user

 

[DMUA]

Hiding till the sun goes down then punching the heck out of him, yes.

Actually, better idea, he could just run to a side of the world where it isn't day. That could work pretty well if DIO is quick and aware of the time it is.

Which, considering it's DIO, he's probably not gonna notice until it's too late.

Also edited as per Freezing

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Except Alucard can just TK himself before getting frozen.

So...running for 23 days?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Alucard - 5 (Apies, Weekly, DMUA, Phoenix, Yobo)

Dio - 1 (Arsenal)

 

[DMUA]

Yeah, that's why it's up in the air.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Ainz vs Skulduggery was closed to being a stomp due to Skul's only way of winning being a move that takes longer than any of Ainz's moves and one that he doesn't start with. Dio's only way of winning being running for 23 days is the same. Especially when DIO can't run because Alu's TK.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Dio could also absorb Alucard's blood, or implant a flesh bud during stopped time, however unlikely those outcomes are.

This is desisive, not a stomp, seeing the arguments for Alucard.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Doesn't his regen absolutely neg bloodloss and Alucard has resistance to mind control.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

>Alucard has resistence to Mind Control

Biological Mind Control and Psychic Mind Control, apples and oranges.

As for the regen, that can't exactly work during stopped time.

 

[Torlikoff]

Wouldn't he try the mind control or freezing after fighting for hours with normal attacks not working?

Off topic, but why was his win against All Might removed?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Either DIO was upgraded or All Might was downgraded/upgraded, I'd assume.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

But then time resumes, and one of 2 million souls are used to replenish his body.

Then I'll vote DIO via brain hax.

 

[Torlikoff]

Neither were, the only justification I saw was that it was a speed blitz in a speed equal match..

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Alucard - 5 (Apies, Weekly, DMUA, Phoenix, Yobo)

Dio - 2 (Arsenal, Dragon)

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Switching to DIO FRA

 

[Torlikoff]

Alucard Dragging him into the sun would only happen if he didn't try the mind control at any point during the night, I feel like he'd do it and win at some point.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Alucard - 4 (Apies, Weekly, DMUA, Phoenix)

Dio - 3 (Arsenal, Dragon, Yobo)

 

[Torlikoff]

I'm voting for DIO BTW.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah, that's like what? 12 hours? DIO's not dumb enough to not try other things and just punch someone for 12 hours. He would also know that he's in limited time because vampire.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Alucard - 4 (Apies, Weekly, DMUA, Phoenix)

Dio - 4 (Arsenal, Dragon, Yobo, Torli)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Just wanted to point out that Dio cant spam time stop, he's never resorted to using mind manip against in a fight an opponent even against Jotaro, and Alucard has regen-nulling bullets

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Aren't Alucard's bullets nearly a thousand times below Dio's dura?

 

[Torlikoff]

He didn't use it on Jotaro because he wanted to prove the superiority of the world and was winning by doing that, it wasn't necessary. Regen Nulling bullets might be a problem though if they can actually hurt him.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also Alucard has both precognition and mind reading, he'd know everything Dio was going to do

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Technically, Harmon negates regen, but DIO can put himself back together without actually needing to regrow anything IIRC

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Doesn't help him just getting stopped

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Yobo Show me Dio's Flesh Buds working on an intangible or incorporeal opponent. If he knows Dio will try it he can render himself intangible or incorporeal so Dio cant use it on him

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@Yobo Show me Dio's Flesh Buds working on an intangible or incorporeal opponent

That's a different problem altogether.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If Alucard knows Dio will try it he can render himself intangible or incorporeal so Dio cant use it on him

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Inconclusive then. Comes down to if DIO can time stop before that

 

[DragonEmperor23]

The bullets won't hurt DIO, they're a thousand times weaker than him. Precog and mind reading doesn't help you during stopped time. Dio can touch intangibles and incorporeals, he can just stick the bud into them.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

wait wut do stands not have intangible and incoreporeal interaction anymore

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon Dio cant touch intangibles/incorporeals, The World can. The flesh buds need a tangible, biological target to work.