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Possible piercing weakness

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@Wokistan

Yeah, but Shin is just a dude with some Mangekyo Sharingan. He is kage level at best. Naruto and Sasuke are much above that.
 
If shin being comparable to Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't make sense, you would have 1 example of this sort of thing. However, it'd just be an outlier unless you have more examples of way weaker characters doing this sort of thing, and your other examples seem to use characters comparable to one another.
 
@The Calaca

https://ibb.co/jVGNzdT

I have to prove nothing. Burden of proof is on you who's claiming a piercing weakness for 5-C characters who are usually harmed by people comparable to them.

I already proved it, click this link above ^^

If he doesn't care about being stabbed then it's no proof that he has a weakness. He might don't give a crap about getting stabbed by Sasuke since that won't kill him. Or it's just that Sasuke is strong enough to stab him in the first place.

Doesn't really matter if he doesn't die. We clearly see a sword piercing Madara.

Losing energy after a long fight makes you distracted and weaker. It's more plausible than assuming this weakness, honestly.

No. Bring me the whole context and we'll see if I disagree. Bringing random scans is hardly useful for these cases where you're advocating for such controvertial topic.

These random scans are proof of Naruto characters being weak to piercing damage, and you are denying it.
 
Janissary34 said:
@Anonymous
Then what are you to it, superior?
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No, I am not superior to the knife. That wasn't even my point. It was that the "logic" you are trying to apply is stupid and doesn't make sense. According to you I must be weak to cars, needles, sunlight, falling bricks etc too. Guess what? I'm not weak to those, they are just strong enough to harm me. Thats what you don't seem to comprehend, being harmed by something =/= a weakness.
 
@Wokistan

If shin being comparable to Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't make sense, you would have 1 example of this sort of thing. However, it'd just be an outlier unless you have more examples of way weaker characters doing this sort of thing, and your other examples seem to use characters comparable to one another.

I meant when it comes to power. You call scans I posted outlier but there are multiple of them.

That is just ignorance of evidence. If Shin manages to pierce through Naruto or Sasuke with an ordinary sword, it means that they are weak to piercing damage.
 
Okay, if you're going to link the same images without showing the full chapter, with the full context, without more elaborate arguments than "they are weak to it because of an outlier" I suggest we close this because I can see this thread going in circles for hours.

You're just denying every other argument, supporting your own baseless claim with a few scans with zero context and contradictory arguments, ignoring the counter arguments and going ad-nauseam over and over.
 
Janissary34 said:
That is just ignorance of evidence. If Shin manages to pierce through Naruto or Sasuke with a piercing weapon, it means that they are weak to piercing damage.
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... So if you get harmed by a weapon that deals blunt force, you're weak against Blunt force damage?
 
9-C Vesubius eruption since humans are weak to it.

This is what you're arguing for.
 
No, a weakness would be something that's capable of inflicting notably more damage to the specific dude than it should overall, like how supermans weakened by kryptonite but against say the Martian manhunter it's just a rock. Otherwise every character would have "weaknesses: attacks above their durability" which is kinda dumb
 
@The Calaca

Okay, if you're going to link the same images without showing the full chapter, with the full context, without more elaborate arguments than "they are weak to it because of an outlier" I suggest we close this because I can see this thread going in circles for hours.

You are just denying the scans here. It's not like I draw them.

You're just denying every other argument, supporting your own baseless claim with a few scans with zero context and contradictory arguments, ignoring the counter arguments and going ad-nauseam over and over.

No, I don't deny it, you are. Shin managed to pierce through Naruto and Sasuke with just a sword.

Alive Madara, Six Paths Madara and various other characters have been shown to be able to pierced by ordinary and common piercing weapons. You are just ignoring scans I post and accuse me of denying every other argument.
 
"i posted multiple scans" it seems like your other scans have characters that are already physically comparable to one another so it doesn't really support your point.

"Ignorance of evidence" not really no. It's 1 showing that's not replicated under the same circumstances from what's been shown.
 
Anyways I have a class so have fun with this thread Naruto fans
 
I'm not asking to draw them, lol. What? I'm asking you to bring the goddamn chapter to read the whole context of the scene, not just the part that is good to your point alone.

>I'm denying that there's a sword on Naruto's stomach

When did I? The sword's right there. I'm not denying that. What I am denying is that he's weak to swords for some random reason.

>Ordinary and common weapons

>Handled by people comparable to them sans one case

Right.
 
No, a weakness would be something that's capable of inflicting notably more damage to the specific dude than it should overall, like how supermans weakened by kryptonite but against say the Martian manhunter it's just a rock. Otherwise every character would have "weaknesses: attacks above their durability" which is kinda dumb

Characters that are suppose to be demi gods getting pierced by ordinary swords and that is not a weakness you say?

@The Calaca

No actually. Completely different things. I am talking about fiction.
 
Anyway, I suggest you to read this: Plot-Induced Stupidity

You'll notice that fiction has a lot of cases similar to this.

BTW, you said that if you feel pain from a punch to the face you're weak to it. This would apply to everything, whether fiction or real life.

I'll downgrade meteors if this thread gets accepted. Those are obviously 10-A and we're just weak to flaming falling rocks that come from space.
 
I'm not asking to draw them, lol. What? I'm asking you to bring the goddamn chapter to read the whole context of the scene, not just the part that is good to your point alone.

What does it really matter? Anyways, you can look up Shin vs Naruto and Sasuke fight on youtube. I am debating with you guys currently, so I don't have time to link them to you the fight.

When did I? The sword's right there. I'm not denying that. What I am denying is that he's weak to swords for some random reason.

I mean, the reason doesn't really matter. He was not weakened when he started to fight Shin.

>Ordinary and common weapons

>Handled by people comparable to them sans one case

Right.

If swords are not ordinary and common weapons, what are they?
 
Look at the line right below ordinary and common

People typically carry weaponry of comparable strength to themselves

Why would I carry a 9C sword if I'm 5B
 
Janissary34 said:
I'm not asking to draw them, lol. What? I'm asking you to bring the goddamn chapter to read the whole context of the scene, not just the part that is good to your point alone.

What does it really matter? Anyways, you can look up Shin vs Naruto and Sasuke fight on youtube. I am debating with you guys currently, so I don't have time to link them to you the fight.

When did I? The sword's right there. I'm not denying that. What I am denying is that he's weak to swords for some random reason.

I mean, the reason doesn't really matter. He was not weakened when he started to fight Shin.

>Ordinary and common weapons

>Handled by people comparable to them sans one case

Right.

If swords are not ordinary and common weapons, what are they?
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Weapons with Plot-Induced Stupidity, Moon Level weapons, buff weapons etc.
 
I don't have the time to look for the video/manga. You're trying to prove a point, you have to bring the evidence, not send me to look after it like it's not your business.

Okay, so he wasn't weakened. So? Still not proving the weakness to swords.

Ordinary and common weapons handled by obvious superhuman characters in a fiction work that doesn't follow IRL logic. Do I need to say more?
 
Anyway, I suggest you to read this: Plot-Induced Stupidity

You'll notice that fiction has a lot of cases similar to this.

Like I said, Naruto characters have been hurt multiple times by swords and other ordinary piercing weapons.

BTW, you said that if you feel pain from a punch to the face you're weak to it. This would apply to everything, whether fiction or real life.

No, by hurt, I meant not feeling pain, but having a wound, or bleeding or something.
 
These 'multiple times' have been proved to be one case in this thread. Do you have more? Feel free to bring them.

Well, guess what, fire can kill you. Does it make me weak to fire, or is just that fire's power is higher than what I can stand?
 
Hey guys thought it would be a good idea to show my weaknesess.

  • Baseball bats
  • Guns
  • Car crashes
  • Fire
  • Blades
  • Bricks
  • Mike Tyson
  • Falling trees
  • Hungry animals
I could keep going but it would never end.
 
@Joaco

Weapons with Plot-Induced Stupidity, Moon Level weapons, buff weapons etc.

Expect it was shown multiple times that normal swords can hurt demi gods like Naruto, Sasuke and Madara.

@The Calaca


Look at the line right below ordinary and commo

People typically carry weaponry of comparable strength to themselves

Why would I carry a 9C sword if I'm 5B

If I was superhumanly strong and durable, I would carry a sword with me, if any who are comparable to me are weak to it.

I don't have the time to look for the video/manga. You're trying to prove a point, you have to bring the evidence, not send me to look after it like it's not your business.

I already bring evidence. If you wanna watch the whole fight, go search it on youtube.

Okay, so he wasn't weakened. So? Still not proving the weakness to swords.

Swords pierce through him, so that is definitely a weakness, because he is suppose to be much more resistant against other types of damage

Ordinary and common weapons handled by obvious superhuman characters in a fiction work that doesn't follow IRL logic. Do I need to say more?

Again, if your enemies are weak to something, then use the thing that your enemies are weak against. Like how it works in strategy games.
 
"I'd bring a sword if everyone else is weak to it"

Samurai code.

I'm really trying not to turn this into a meme feast, but you're doing it really hard, dude.
 
Man, it only makes sense! Wouldn't you want to use a weapon that your enemies are weak against?
 
Because this: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool

Bring the statement of Naruto characters being inherently weak against piercing weapons, not scans from characters damaging comparable characters, not scans with no stabs at all, not scans showing outliers, not scans without context.

If this is a weakness like you say, bring me the exact scan where it's implied.
 
I mean, not statement, but it was shown. Multiple times even! Don't deny scans, man. It doesn't make sense. What author wants happens in fiction. Something doesn't need a statement, if it is already shown and proven.
 
Funny how you still argue for scan'''s''' when only one has been proved to be accurate here. The rest are scaling feats only.
 
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