Possible Ki Manipulation page? (Dragon Ball)

[sanicspood]

I've been doing a little thinking and I think a dragon ball specific page for ki users might be a good idea since it has a crap ton of uses like I mean a lot of uses. and pretty much every character in the series uses it

I didn't make the page I just want to hear others opinions since this a pretty big decision


agreed: 7

disagree: 5

neutral: 2

 

[Orange]

I legitimately 100% agree

 

[Bernkastelll]

I've been doing a little thinking and I think a dragon ball specific page for ki users might be a good idea since it has a crap ton of uses like I mean a lot of uses. and pretty much every character in the series uses it

I didn't make the page I just want to hear others opinions since this a pretty big decision

I agree with this, Ki Manipulation actually has a lot of stuff in DB, it does deserve a page

 

[Justkillme42069]

I agree, from what I remember ki is actually incredibly versatile

 

[ElixirBlue]

Does have to be called “Ki Manipulation”?

Why not “Ki (Dragon Ball)”?

Ki Manipulation sounds like a general powers and abilities page than a specific verse.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Does have to be called “Ki Manipulation”?

Funily enough, Ki Manipulation envolves Chi Manipulation

 

[Justkillme42069]

"ki manipulation (dragon ball)" sounds fine to me

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Since DB Ki is just Chi with a few extra uses, I think it's own page would be kinda redundant.

 

[CR_Catinho]

I guess it's a good idea

 

[sanicspood]

Does have to be called “Ki Manipulation”?

Why not “Ki (Dragon Ball)”?

Ki Manipulation sounds like a general powers and abilities page than a specific verse.

well i didnt think of a name so i just put that, i was thinking "ki manipulation (dragon ball)" or sum

 

[sanicspood]

Since DB Ki is just Chi with a few extra uses, I think it's own page would be kinda redundant.

yea they have some of the stuff there but in db they use ki for far, far more stuff in the show/manga

 

[ElixirBlue]

well i didnt think of a name so i just put that, i was thinking "ki manipulation (dragon ball)" or sum

I was thinking like how we made https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Energy_(Archie_Comics)

Since saying “Chaos Energy Manipulation (Archie Comics)” is too long and no one in-verse calls it with “Manipulation” in the title

 

[sanicspood]

I was thinking like how we made https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Energy_(Archie_Comics)

Since saying “Chaos Energy Manipulation (Archie Comics)” is too long and no one in-verse calls it with “Manipulation” in the title

Ki (Dragon Ball) can work

 

[Justkillme42069]

the only possible problem for me is that I feel like most of the uses for ki are just techniques that a specific person or group of people can use and not everyone who can use ki, and a ki manipulation page would only cover everything that all ki users can do
hell even just flight (air dance) was considered a special technique in the OG dragon ball and only the very most powerful characters could use it, and videl can use ki for flying but she can't use ki projectiles

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

yea they have some of the stuff there but in db they use ki for far, far more stuff in the show/manga

What it's used for isn't the point. What matters is it's description, and DB Ki is basically the same force as what we classify as Chi on the site already.

 

[ElixirBlue]

What it's used for isn't the point. What matters is it's description, and DB Ki is basically the same force as what we classify as Chi on the site already.

Can’t Dragon Ball’s Ki capable of reality warping from the Ki Dragon from the Dragon Balls? Or am I mistaken?

 

[Orange]

Doesn't ki in dbz come from the courage, vigor and right mindedness?

 

[sanicspood]

Can’t Dragon Ball’s Ki capable of reality warping from the Ki Dragon from the Dragon Balls? Or am I mistaken?

wish granting is a form of reality warping right? then yea

 

[BluudyManikin777]

the only possible problem for me is that I feel like most of the uses for ki are just techniques that a specific person or group of people can use and not everyone who can use ki, and a ki manipulation page would only cover everything that all ki users can do
hell even just flight (air dance) was considered a special technique in the OG dragon ball, and only like goku, piccolo junior, krillin, chaozu and tenshinhan could use it iirc, and videl can use ki for flying but she can't use ki projectiles

I agree with this. If ki is an ability that if you have it, you automatically have hella abilities with it, it deserves its own page. But it’s said, the possible uses of ki aren’t used by everyone. Most characters in early Dragon Ball can project energy, but can’t fly, and we have cases like Videl, who CAN fly, but she can’t project that energy offensively. Vegeta can also use ki, but when he was first introduced, he never had extra sensory perception

 

[sanicspood]

and i just counted like 11 more things db has that that page doesnt

 

[Orange]

Can’t Dragon Ball’s Ki capable of reality warping from the Ki Dragon from the Dragon Balls? Or am I mistaken?

Technically it can create beings that can warp reality , it can also used to preferm vice shout [a shout that breaks down space and creates dimensional walls]

 

[sanicspood]

u can argue it has regen neg only if ur stronger than the opponent to

 

[Orange]

Normal stuff are ki projection, flight, static increasing, barriers creating, explosion creating, telekinesis etc...

 

[Orange]

u can argue it has regen neg only if ur stronger than the opponent to

It can regen up to mid high I heard if you are stronger than your opponent

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ki in DB has absorption, absorption negation, fusion, absorption nulification, energy nulification, Light Manipulation, telekinesis, piercing damage, reality warping, BFR, teleportation, absorptionsoul manipulation and others stuff

 

[sanicspood]

yea, so it would probably be like "limited regen neg" or sum

 

[BluudyManikin777]

I still disagree with the page’s creation. All of the DB characters have Ki, but some can’t use it in ways others can, and a small percentage just can’t use it at all

 

[sanicspood]

i mean, u can just specicify who has it and who doesn't, like in the chaos energy page, not everyone can use type 2 conceptual manip but they still can use chaos energy

 

[Bernkastelll]

I still disagree with the page’s creation. All of the DB characters have Ki, but some can’t use it in ways others can, and a small percentage just can’t use it at all

do u mean the fodders humans that cant control? is it even relevant?

 

[Orange]

Everyone has ki, it's a martial art technique [I know, dbz ****** it up]
Everyone can use it with the right training, ki sensing isn't common but it falls under it, you can sense evil intent, beings across the universe and dimensions, jowbstromg your opponents, and it make your eye sight much better and it's like a pseudo 6 sense

 

[ElixirBlue]

I still disagree with the page’s creation. All of the DB characters have Ki, but some can’t use it in ways others can, and a small percentage just can’t use it at all

Why not add a Mastery section?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

i mean, u can just specicify who has it and who doesn't, like in the chaos energy page, not everyone can use type 2 conceptual manip but they still can use chaos energy

This would be a bad idea. This idea is to add the ability to all the DB characters’ pages, but we have to state what they can’t use. That’s kind of a waste of space

 

[Orange]

yea, so it would probably be like "limited regen neg" or sum

It's limited I guess yes, and it always gets brought up in debates, it should technically be added in their profiles actually

 

[sanicspood]

Why not add a Mastery section?

^^^^^^^^^^^^ EXACLY, THATS WHAT IM SAYING

 

[Bernkastelll]

This would be a bad idea. This idea is to add the ability to all the DB characters’ pages, but we have to state what they can’t use. That’s kind of a waste of space

We can specify, like higher tiers of mastery in Ki, a lot of pages has it

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Why not add a Mastery section?

Because characters do have great mastery over it, but don’t use it in ways that others use their own

 

[Orange]

This would be a bad idea. This idea is to add the ability to all the DB characters’ pages, but we have to state what they can’t use. That’s kind of a waste of space

Everyone in the main cats can use ki, everyone has ki, in order to use it you have to train, just like chakra or nen or something
You have It. It exists. You need to work hard or toriyama's blessing to have it

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Ki as described in the DB wiki

• Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power," which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being, with its major focus being in the center of the body.

Chi as described here on this wiki

• Chi Manipulation is the power to manipulate the vital energy coursing within living organism and that constitutes health, also known as Qi, Ki, Youki, and other names.

As you can plainly see, the are functionally the same thing, and that's the problem with making a page for DB Ki, not how many uses it has.

 

[Orange]

Because characters do have great mastery over it, but don’t use it in ways that others use their own

Like? Examples would be great

 

[Bernkastelll]

Because characters do have great mastery over it, but don’t use it in ways that others use their own

Doesnt matter if they dont use, they CAN use, it is the point, a character can have a power that they dont usually use, like rick sanchez hate his time stop item, but he still has it