Possible 1-A Eternity

[Elizio33]

That would make the gauntlet 1-A or God Doom Low 1-C. Neither are accurate.

Why Low 1-C for God Doom is not accurate? He didn't even have Low 1-A/1-A feats. Low 1-C, possibly Higher seems appropriate for him.

 

[Antvasima]

Low 1-C seems fine for Doom.

 

[Sera_EX]

Too many f*cking Marvel threads for me... I don't even know what I'm supposed to be reading. Are we bumping the Low 1-As to 1-A or something?

 

[Elizio33]

I can update the profiles?

@Sera EX This is about the Beyonders, Molecule Man and God Doom tier. The 1-A collectively for the Beyonders cover only the power of the entire race and it is based on what Molecule Man did with their power.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

And Beyonders / Molecule Man / God Doom continue to be inconsistent. What is the shock.

 

[CorporateJ]

Nah as the other guy explained, MM showed feats neither doom or Beyonders have done so we can assume he used his own powerset. Also if Doom TRULY wanted to he could've ended the fight with IG panther instantly from the start but he didn't. People tend to forget that Tribunal was leagues above the IG and he was beat by the Beyonders which Doom had the powers of. That alone would make IG insignificant to him

 

[Elizio33]

That dosen't mean Doom had access to all the Beyonders' power. Doom exerted himself when fighting Black Panther even Doom admited it. Even Doctor Strange said that the Infinity Gauntlet was maybe the only thing that could hurt Doom. Take note that Doom was doubting of himself at this time heck, he wasn't even able to heal his face while Reed Richard was able to fix Doom's face with the power of the Beyonders. Molecule Man has absorbed the power of the entire race of the Beyonders he did his 1-A feats with their power.

 

[Elizio33]

Anyway we can also add for the Beyonders: "Exist in the Wild White Space a white void outside and beyond the multiverse where the Beyonders watches and experiment the multiverse".

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

That dosen't mean Doom had access to all the Beyonders' power. Doom exerted himself when fighting Black Panther even Doom admited it. Even Doctor Strange said that the Infinity Gauntlet was maybe the only thing that could hurt Doom. Take note that Doom was doubting of himself at this time heck, he wasn't even able to heal his face while Reed Richard was able to fix Doom's face with the power of the Beyonders. Molecule Man has absorbed the power of the entire race of the Beyonders he did his 1-A feats with their power.

Its also consistent with Phoenix Cyclops hurting him. Also, there was a tie in story where Cassandra Nova wanted to make Jean Grey (TAS) connect to the Phoenix Force again and be her White Phoenix so as to take over the Battleworld meaning facing Doom). This seems also consistent with this.

 

[ClassicNESfan]

Technically speaking, there isn't a ton of good evidence that The Living Tribunal is beyond The Infinity Gauntlet. In their only real confrontation, neither opponent was sure who would win in a fight, but the Gauntlet user submitted whe he realized they would at the very least destroy the local reality. A judgment laid down by The Living Tribunal did once make it so that the Infinity Gems could not function in unison anymore, but I don't know if that can be scaled since the judgment was inacted when they were- for all intents and purposes- inactive. The Infinity Gauntlet's peak power is almost always left ambiguous. God Doom is the only example I know of wherein it was simply outmatched.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

Technically speaking, there isn't a ton of good evidence that The Living Tribunal is beyond The Infinity Gauntlet. In their only real confrontation, neither opponent was sure who would win in a fight, but the Gauntlet user submitted whe he realized they would at the very least destroy the local reality. A judgment laid down by The Living Tribunal did once make it so that the Infinity Gems could not function in unison anymore, but I don't know if that can be scaled since the judgment was inacted when they were- for all intents and purposes- inactive. The Infinity Gauntlet's peak power is almost always left ambiguous. God Doom is the only example I know of wherein it was simply outmatched.

Well, concerning the Gems... The Infinity Stones are mined by the Celestials from below the God Well, and seeded into the individual universes. Also, unlike back then the IG doesn't seem that all powerful in recent stories.

 

[Randomperosn]

This thread got derailed quick.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that we should apply what Elizio suggested earlier. Doom never demonstrated anywhere near the scale of power of the Molecule Man. Just because he received his powers from Owen, this does not mean anywhere near the entirety of them.

 

[Elizio33]

@Randomperosn you're right. Do you prefer the solution i suggested for Beyonders/Molecule Man/God Doo or you prefer the Molecule Man did his 1-A feats with his own powerset stuff?

 

[Randomperosn]

@Randomperosn you're right. Do you prefer the solution i suggested for Beyonders/Molecule Man/God Doo or you prefer the Molecule Man did his 1-A feats with his own powerset stuff?

I agree with your revisions.

 

[Elizio33]

Okay then. If everyone agree i can update the profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I will unlock the following profiles:

Molecule Ma

The Beyonders

Doctor Doom

Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Elizio33]

Done

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Should I close this thread then?

 

[Elizio33]

No problem. Yes i think this thread has been concluded

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.