PMMM misc revisions 2

[Kaltias]

While i'm doing the edits, can i move Homura's acausality to the CMG key or?

 

[SomebodyData]

She would still have acausality through contact of her own shield, so no (You could note her acausality is better I guess)

 

[Kaltias]

Ok.

 

[Kaltias]

For Itzli, unknown both AP and dura then?

 

[SomebodyData]

Yeah, I'll change it right now.

 

[Kaltias]

Anyway about the Portable stuff:

Madoka, Kyoko, Mami.

Description of the attacks is pretty much the same so if Madoka qualifies, Mami and Kyoko should also qualify

 

[SomebodyData]

K, I'll add them then.

 

[Kaltias]

Also, Ult. Madoka should have resistance to curse manipulation on UKG's level.

She constantly fight her, the curses are passive, and we know that they can affect 2-As

Scales to UKG herself I guess

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I think it would be best to create another CRT, Kal.

 

[Kaltias]

I don't feel like making a separate CRT only to give Madoka curse resistance.

Also should we specify that it's also mind resistance given that UKG's curses corrupt the mind?

 

[RKGenki]

I agree about the resistances and I think it's better to specify, no one would assume that resistance to curse=resistance to mind manip, it's the same as the power null resistance due to resistance to various status ailments

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Fair.

Also agreed with the resistance for Madoka.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Madoka constantly fights UKG?

How does she do that when UKG's curses alone are on par?

Unless...

 

[RKGenki]

I had other things in mind, but they require too many assumptions

 

[Kaltias]

@Monarch

Law manip helps I guess.

That or Madoka is a good deal above baseline because UKG has a 2-A feat with a fraction of the power generated by standing here and doing nothing (AoC destroying the multiverse).

Add that to the list of the stuff that the next movie should explain ovo.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

or its an Infinite Loop

- Madoka's wish to personally kill all witches including her own makes her stronger than all witches

- a witch is always superior to its magical girl self

Madoka gets stronger to kill UKG -> UKG gets stronger from Madoka getting stronger -> Madoka gets stronger to kill UKG -> UKG gets stronger from Madoka getting stronger -> Madoka gets stronger to kill UKG-> UKG gets stronger from Madoka getting stronger -> Madoka gets stronger to kill UKG...

FOREVER

Madoka/UKG solo all of 2-A when?

 

[Kaltias]

Perpetually increasing degree of 2-A for god tiers when.

Except AoC, but no one cares about AoC.

 

[RKGenki]

The loop is one of the things I was thinking, but without any clear proof we can't confirm it, even if it's really likely that that's the case

 

[SomebodyData]

Hmm, maybe that's the contradiction that Kyubey mentioned way back in episode 12, and the reason why Homura taking Madoka away was a bad thing.

Anyways, I guess I also agree with the addition of the resistance.

 

[Kaltias]

So now Homulilly has better mind hax as a bonus

 

[SomebodyData]

>Can hax a conceptual 2-A being, who is also made up of infinite minds with the same level of consciousness.

>Gets better

 

[Kaltias]

See, Homura is PMMM Lucemon.

Even if she is unrelated to the discussion she gets upgraded ovo

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Infinity minds as in Infinite M-Bodies?

 

[SomebodyData]

@Homu Production Notes (Pray they get completely translated) basically state Madoka...

Hold on a second,

Akuma Homura can do what her witch form can

U Madoka also can do what her witch form can (Absorption, "Heaven")

Interesting....

Back on track, the magical girls Madoka saves become a part of her, gaining her level of consciousness and looking back at Rebellion, seeming to be always with her.

 

[Kaltias]

Still not the same as mindhaxing multiple 2-As. They are cosmic aware 3-D beings.

But at least:

Akuma Homura's active mind hax > Akuma Homura's subconscious mind hax > Homulilly's subconscious mind hax > Madoka's resistance > UKG's curses = 2-A mind hax

 

[Kaltias]

Last two things (I think).

Mami's ribbons can be invisible.

Blocking False Mami's Tiro Finale means that her shields block piercing attacks.

 

[Kaltias]

Bump I guess

 

[SomebodyData]

Those two also look legit