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Pillar Chase 2 General Discussion Thread

I feel like we should include them as separate keys on the character in question's profile instead of making a whole different profile for them

At the end they'll have the same hax as the killer in question, only adding the one's told in the story

This last aspect should be completely scrapped in ariana's case since she literally doesn't add anything at all to base jeff
 
also once Inkfell's remodel is released we probably have to downgrade his LS cuz the kill animation was changed
 
TheShape03 said:
I remember making one a while ago but I got bored and decided not to continue it.

Edit: Here it is, and it seems that VIZION was updating it without me noticing xddd.
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looking at it, it seems to be pretty much complete at this point

edit: nvm I just noticed no stuff in standard tactics
 
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Forsaken Smiles -C00lkidd vs WYST- (0-0-0)

uh ionno did this for fun because of this https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/s/t1fj6SJnsy but I kinda wanna see if this is a stomp or not -Victory via Incap, Death or BFR -C00lkidd has his C00lgui ig -WYST Key is Used -Both are in Character A DELICIOUS SNACK INDEED!!!: Scales to 58...
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update just came out, and it seems like they're actually paying more attention to the lore (this piece involves the "Demon" class in the Chasers)
 
it was vizion, who just said "wyst hasn't affected 4-D structures"

creating a universe involves affecting the space-time continuum, a 4-D structure
 
also, i'd like to add that there is strong proof that Ultra M and therefore MX and Forest King come directly from their Mario's Madness Variants

Ultra M is voiced by their MM Voice Actor and the video description literally says
Ultra M, first presented in Mario Madness V2, makes his way into Pillar Chase 2 as part of a map called 3-Doomsway, along with 10 brand new skins and BX changes.
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It's literally Mario's Madness's Ultra M.
Now, this is important because of one thing he says in the trailer:
"I've given you the chance to play with some of my critters, a chance to get a taste of what i have to offer..."
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This is lore-acurrate to the mod, since in this mod, all the characters are merely resources part of M's little game, which is reflected in the way M refers to the monsters (MX and Forest King) as "My Critters"

This being the case, MX and Forest King would be equivalents to their Mario's Madness counterparts, acquiring their powers and abilities and most importantly: Their speed

MX can attack boyfriends, who can react to SOUNDWAVES, making him Transonic and, therefore, all the chasers too.
A stat that can only be applied to MX would be Lifting Strength, being amazingly buffed to Class K
 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
also, i'd like to add that there is strong proof that Ultra M and therefore MX and Forest King come directly from their Mario's Madness Variants

Ultra M is voiced by their MM Voice Actor and the video description literally says

It's literally Mario's Madness's Ultra M.
Now, this is important because of one thing he says in the trailer:



This is lore-acurrate to the mod, since in this mod, all the characters are merely resources part of M's little game, which is reflected in the way M refers to the monsters (MX and Forest King) as "My Critters"

This being the case, MX and Forest King would be equivalents to their Mario's Madness counterparts, acquiring their powers and abilities and most importantly: Their speed

MX can attack boyfriends, who can react to SOUNDWAVES, making him Transonic and, therefore, all the chasers too.
A stat that can only be applied to MX would be Lifting Strength, being amazingly buffed to Class K
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dang that's neat, tho would this affect Mario madness MX too? considering they are Impiled to be the same
 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
it was vizion, who just said "wyst hasn't affected 4-D structures"

creating a universe involves affecting the space-time continuum, a 4-D structure
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Well things like The Spectre from forsaken Created a Universe liek structure (as much as I disagree with it being a universe like structure as for me it seems to be more of a pocket dimension liek structure, and nothing really states its like a universe) and that still is like put at 3-A
 
One question: Is this an official crossover between both parties, or is it just one-sided canon for Pillar Chase 2?

Depending on the answer, creating a new profile is not necessary, you would only have to modify the Mario's Madness Ultra M profile.
 
Eynooh said:
Well things like The Spectre from forsaken Created a Universe liek structure (as much as I disagree with it being a universe like structure as for me it seems to be more of a pocket dimension liek structure, and nothing really states its like a universe) and that still is like put at 3-A
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not only is the beastiry thing LITERALLY described as a universe, but also:

If they decided to categorize the feat like that

it's their problem
 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
not only is the beastiry thing LITERALLY described as a universe, but also:

If they decided to categorize the feat like that

it's their problem
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I checked the main site and uh, im pretty sure WYST needs to have proof of also creating a Space-Time continuum for it to be Low 2-C

This is for Universe Level tier
"Characters or objects that can create or destroy all celestial bodies within a finite 3-D space at least equivalent in size to the observable universe via an omnidirectional explosion that covers the entire space, alternately create or significantly affect[note 1] a 3-D universe or a pocket dimension of comparable size, which does not involve the destruction and/or creation of space-time."


and this is for Low 2-C
"Characters or objects whose power is uncountably infinitely greater than the prior tiers. That is to say, they can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that exceed lesser objects by an uncountably infinite margin. An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any 4-dimensional structure of a similar scope."

so far, WYST only created a Universe

there isn't any proof it has a 4th dimensional Space-Time continuum
 
Eynooh said:
I checked the main site and uh, im pretty sure WYST needs to have proof of also creating a Space-Time continuum for it to be Low 2-C
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I mean, if he created a universe where there wasn't one, it must contain a space-time, unless we believe that WYST's universe was timeless, which shouldn't be the standard assumption.
 
TheShape03 said:
I mean, if he created a universe where there wasn't one, it must contain a space-time, unless we believe that WYST's universe was timeless, which shouldn't be the standard assumption.
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I went to look if characters get scaled to low-2-c for creating a Universe

so far

Fnaf world Animdude is low 2-c for creating a FNAF world's universe

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Animdude (FNAF World)

Animdude is one of the final bosses in FNAF World. He is referred to as the puppeteer who controls the universe. He appears in the after-game as a character who resided in a world of scrapped coding and will join the party to fight the final boss of the game if certain minigame-related...
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and that's all I can find cuz most of the Low 2-C are from restarting or doing smth with a timeline

but considering Animdude is Low 2-C from creating FNAF World's Universe I don't see why WYST couldn't be also
 
Eynooh said:
but considering Animdude is Low 2-C from creating FNAF World's Universe I don't see why WYST couldn't be also
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Now we just need to find a way to scale that to physical stats and voila, we'll have all of PC2 in Low 2-C.

Edit: I almost forgot, Peak WYST should go back to just 7-B+, scaling above 58 Megatons won't directly boost him to 100 Megatons, that's way too exaggerated and not supported by anything. It's best to just assume he's stronger than 58 Megatons, but up to an unknown limit (to be fair, the difference in strength between the two states was never stated, Peak WYST could be only 1 Megaton stronger, or even much less than that, and he'd still be "stronger").
 
TheShape03 said:
Now we just need to find a way to scale that to physical stats and voila, we'll have all of PC2 in Low 2-C.

Edit: I almost forgot, Peak WYST should go back to just 7-B+, scaling above 58 Megatons won't directly boost him to 100 Megatons, that's way too exaggerated and not supported by anything. It's best to just assume he's stronger than 58 Megatons, but up to an unknown limit (to be fair, the difference in strength between the two states was never stated, Peak WYST could be only 1 Megaton stronger, or even much less than that, and he'd still be "stronger").
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I was mostly basing off the Tierlist

as Dumb WYST which I'm pretty sure was the one used in the Tierlist is in Easily Wins

while some characters are just wins

and some are 50/50

which means that Dumb WYST probably Upscales from it Higher than the ones who just wins against Niloticus

and we know that Dumb WYST's Strength is reduced when he became dumb

but I understand what you mean and I'll change it back to 7-B+
 
TheShape03 said:
"Leave this planet, false god" - Valem to PCX.

Me remembering this: PC2 High Hypersonic when?
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Uhhh, How does PCX leave the Planet exactly considering he could just Go to his world or travel to another place as in his beastiary stated he could travel to different games
 
Eynooh said:
Uhhh, How does PCX leave the Planet exactly considering he could just Go to his world or travel to another place as in his beastiary stated he could travel to different games
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Yeah, I wasn't serious.

Although, Valem says that to several monsters (PCX, EXE, and Uncle Samsonite), but all we know is that they can leave the planet by unknown means, so that doesn't help much.
 
alr.

Anyways we Should Downgrade Inkfell's LS to Superhuman now since his old Killing animation where he rips the survivor's heads off Is now different


and uhh....
actually I think that's it, anything else from the new update that we need to add?
 
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