Pillar Chase 2 General Discussion Thread

[PuffletronGaming]

An thread discussing pillar chase 2 content.

Since fuwatti is coming out after uncle samsonite rework, i think it's time for the thread to be made.

Oh yeah, there is EXEs, Horrorbrews and even Ao Oni.

Art by [UNKNOWN].

 

[PuffletronGaming]

Verse Blog:

PC2 Verse Blog

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[TheShape03]

Pillar Chase 2: MX's tackles

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[TheShape03]

MX (Pillar Chase 2)

MX is the ninth monster in Pillar Chase 2, he is a non-canonical version of the Mario '85 character. Like the rest of the monsters, MX's objective is to kill all the survivors before time runs out in order to win. He resembles a huge, heavily exaggerated version of Mario with a...

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And here is the first character.

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

yipee

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

damn we're like 2 active members of the verse xdxddd

 

[TheShape03]

Since Class 25 is for ripping off one limb, and MX rips off 2 at a time, should we give MX Class 50?

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

i thought you were against that xdxdd

Yes he tears off two legs, but he also does that with two hands, each pulling in opposite directions.
You can see at the end how both hands are violently separated from each other with the respective half that they separated, and it would be impossible for one arm not to be exerting force because the 20 kN that the only arm would exert would also have to act against the arm that is holding it "without exerting force".
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[TheShape03]

i thought you were against that xdxdd

I thought you were asking if we could double it because "he ripped his legs off with one hand, meaning he could do twice as much force with two." My rebuttal was to that, saying he exerted force with both hands.

Which doesn't conflict with what I said now, so I guess I misinterpreted what you asked at the time.

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

if that's the case then it seems fine

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

the verse might be getting a physical Low 2-C upgrade

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

the verse might be getting a physical Low 2-C upgrade

explain

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

nvm

inkfell's beast skin on the wiki used to have smth about it being the "strongest being in pc2", which i believed to be true since the wiki is supervised by tronus, a developer.

but tronus themselves removed that from the wiki.

having him being the strongest being in pc2, it would place him above WYST's powers, and since the survivors can resist hits by beast skin, AND the monsters can harm them, the update would have been coherent

but yeah, tronus just removed that

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

Pillar Chase 2: PCX Cleanup

I'm gonna be real quick. Lots of stuff needs to be removed from his previous movesets and replace them with the current one. Not only this, but there's one specific thing that's been bugging me for a while. Existence Erasure (Could erase WYST) Whoever added this misinterpreted the text. The...

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[Ruby_R_Dracula]

omg there's alot of matchups I wanna do for WYST, But due to WYST Being too Dum to use his Abilities I can't do

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Honestly With the Stuff we Know about Pre-Brain Damaged WYST, Would They Be Enough to Give Him a Seperate Key?

Cuz From What we Know
He's
-Much Stronger and More Intelligent
-And He Actually Knows How to Use his Abilities

 

[Javenplayz253]

I have some pc2 fan monsters i wanna make!!!! I'll link em' here when I'm done!!

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I kinda wanna make a Profile for Valem
But I'm kinda confused on his Scaling cuz
Looking at the Double Trouble quotes
(atleast the ones in the wiki)

He Shares the Same Power Source as Inkfell, Alongside Vapor and Rosemary
But He is also Superior to Both Vapor and Rosemary As Suggested by the Double Trouble quotes

Vapor You look down on me, but i do this job better than you ever could.
Valem : Don't forget your place, you only exist because WE allow you to.

Rosemary : I don't enjoy this pain I am to cause, but it's not like you would understand.
Valem : Still clinging onto these human emotions? Perhaps we should've left you in the pits, burning for eternity.

He Considers that Springtrap and Jeff would make Fine Demons

And Finds Niloticus to be Good enough to Join Them.

Which all Still Puts him at Large Building+

However one thing, He also Finds WYST to have so much potential, and Asked WYST Two times to Join Them which I'm pretty sure he only asked a few monsters to Join them, but only once.

and the Way he Talks about PCX Kinda implies he views them as weaker but Ionno


besides the other stuff, His Ap, is kinda hard to Figure out, well atleast to me

 

[TheShape03]

besides the other stuff, His Ap, is kinda hard to Figure out, well atleast to me

Valem should still be High 8-C+ considering he can damage survivors.

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

He Shares the Same Power Source as Inkfell, Alongside Vapor and Rosemary

speaking of inkfell, Tronus (dev) has written a page on the wiki regarding Inkfell's lore, in which Inkfell is treated as the same character as Bendy

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

In The Stricken's Intro Cutscene
he can be seen moving like quite fast between frames, and I was wondering if this could upgrade the verse's speed since he's pretty much one of the slower monsters in game

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

it'd be a pain in the ass to calculate, but i feel like it'd be coherent

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

it'd be a pain in the ass to calculate, but i feel like it'd be coherent

I actually did try calculating that once

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

hey

Decay can rip off arms

PCX is stronger than Decay

Ripping off arms stays at like 20.453 Tons of Force

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

hey

Decay can rip off arms

PCX is stronger than Decay

Ripping off arms stays at like 20.453 Tons of Force

can't argue with that

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

not related to powerscaling, but now you can't run will be fast as ****, but will also have a thinner hitbox

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

not related to powerscaling, but now you can't run will be fast as ****, but will also have a thinner hitbox

I mean it is, we can add "Higher with "you can run" in his speed section

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Niloticus is stated to be unable to be harmed by Human Weapons


which makes me wonder, would this be enough to put a "Likely or Possibly Higher" in the Monsters's profiles?

 

[TheShape03]

Niloticus is stated to be unable to be harmed by Human Weapons

I'm just going to leave these two things here...

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I'm just going to leave these two things here...

which is why I just said if this is enough to just add "possibly or likely higher" to the profiles siwjajwjje

 

[TheShape03]

which is why I just said if this is enough to just add "possibly or likely higher" to the profiles siwjajwjje

I would honestly agree with scaling PC2 above nuclear bombs because of that statement, since they are still human weapons, but I know that no one would agree with that.

If we ignore the nuclear bombs, the rest of the human weapons do not go beyond 9-A, and all the monsters are High 8-C+, which is already enough to not be damaged by those things. So I don't think a "possibly higher" rating is necessary.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I would honestly agree with scaling PC2 above nuclear bombs because of that statement, since they are still human weapons, but I know that no one would agree with that.

Same, anyways now looking at this again, I kinda agree just scaling them to nukes instead of possibly higher on the sight, due to how reliable the Bestiaries have been

well imma wait for the opinions of the knowledgeable members though

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

seems pretty convincing ngl

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

seems pretty convincing ngl

if we do infact scale them to nukes, which of the two things that TheShape03 sent would they scale to

 

[TheShape03]

if we do infact scale them to nukes, which of the two things that TheShape03 sent would they scale to

I'd say we should scale them to the Tsar Bomba. This is the power of all the nuclear bombs in the world combined.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I'd say we should scale them to the Tsar Bomba. This is the power of all the nuclear bombs in the world combined.

i see

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

I'd say we should scale them to the Tsar Bomba.

fair

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

wait are we in agreement to actually scale them there?



like I kinda got something ready in my brain for the scaling chain

(Niloticus is 4 Stars Lethality in His Bestiary, While MX is 5 Stars, so uh besides that, the usual MX can Hurt himself with his Tackle scaling and stuff)

 

[TheShape03]

My current opinion to help elaborate the scaling chain:

I think this would boost them all to "City level+."

They should all have similar durability to Niloticus. Any weapon in the game has the same effect on Niloticus as on other monsters.

MX damages himself, survivors survive MX's tackles, all monsters can damage survivors.

As a bonus, all monsters can fight each other, and many of them are canonically capable of defeating Niloticus.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Once I do a Sandbox on Valem, should I give him some abilities of the other demons, like their Immortalities, since they all share the same Power Source?

I'm mostly talking about Abilities from Vapor and Rosemary (despite them not having a Profile)

cause I don't really know if we could add some of Inkfell abilities despite him having the same power Source