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Phoenix Wright downgrade

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Yes. The movie did hold quite a few large differences like I had brought up. It should stay it's own profile. But the anime is basically the same with a few power differences
 
Game Phoenix is just weaker less powers Anime Phoenix. Which is why I brought up putting them together so long ago. Since it's was the same canon story. And the only real bigger difference was the powers he got.
 
Which is a big difference.
 
Isn't that pretty much the main difference between Manga and Anime Naruto? Anime Naruto wasn't allowed for reasons similar to that.
 
Naruto's profile is based on his manga appearance specifically. Anime Naruto also has an FTL feat among other things. I don't know about Boruto, but Part 1 and II Naruto do not use any feats from the Anime. We don't use the anime version because he's mostly copy/paste from his original counterpart; same story, same personality, with better feats being the only notable difference.
 
I believe so. Could separate keys help? Because I agree that his game version is completely featless, as he never hurts himself nor has harmed others. Thus, I believe 10-C to 10-B would be suitable for him. The anime version, however, still has his attack legit for harming himself, but that was only once.
 
The clip you sent didn't actually having him try to harm himself; he was fiddling with his gavel and it slipped up and bonked him on the head, which would be an antifeat for 9-B durability. Having seperate keys for a featless old man that shouldn't even have any of his 'evidence' abilities as argued in this thread is, with respect, completely absurd.
 
I would have to agree with that, actually. From playing the first three games, I dont even recall Judge even taking the evidence, especially Hacking (since when does he even hack in the first place? Thats rather OoC.) as its Phoenix who takes it after the trial takes a break/finishes.

So you say 9-B Judge is an outlier? Im probably agreeing to this now, since I have only seen him harm himself once. So that pretty much could be an outlier if he doesnt harm himself ever again.
 
It's not so much that it's an outlier, it's that the Judge didn't really put any force into his gavel feat at all. So even if that harmed him, the gavel toss shouldn't be treated as 9-B for being pretty obviously below that. If anything, one could make an argument against the Judge not even having 9-B durability; Franziska realistically wouldn't whip the Judge at a force strong enough to kill any normal man. But I digress.
 
Separate keys wouldn't work btw. If we don't five separate keys to anime Naruto we can't do that for anime Wright.
 
The judge thing is wrong. From the several times anime and game that judge has taken hits from the cast like Feanziska definitely makes his durability scale, and to literally bruise himself, plus the fact that basically everyone in the verse scales to Wall level AP, makes The Judge most certainly at wall. Just because he didn't put that much force, doesn't mean it doesn't scale. It left a bruise mark. That's definitely a good enough reason to scale.

Your argument about franziska also doesn't work cause she whipped the judge right before she went and whips Phoenix unconscious. So that doesn't work either.
 
Jackythejack said:
Separate keys wouldn't work btw. If we don't five separate keys to anime Naruto we can't do that for anime Wright.
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I mean, is that because it isn't aloud, or cause nobody cared to make it like that? Since it's essentially the same person just adding 3 more abilties. All together might be easier, and make more sense to just put them in different keys.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Naruto's profile is based on his manga appearance specifically. Anime Naruto also has an FTL feat among other things. I don't know about Boruto, but Part 1 and II Naruto do not use any feats from the Anime. We don't use the anime version because he's mostly copy/paste from his original counterpart; same story, same personality, with better feats being the only notable difference.
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This is what I'm going off of. If we don't use anime Naruto simply because he only has better feats, we can include Phoenix Wright anime version simply because he has better feats and powers. If we included Phoenix Wright that's be a double standard.
 
Anime and Game wright do have differences like the already famoys feats, different cases and different continuities and anime-exclusive events
 
Buttersamuri said:
The judge thing is wrong. From the several times anime and game that judge has taken hits from the cast like Feanziska definitely makes his durability scale, and to literally bruise himself, plus the fact that basically everyone in the verse scales to Wall level AP, makes The Judge most certainly at wall. Just because he didn't put that much force, doesn't mean it doesn't scale. It left a bruise mark. That's definitely a good enough reason to scale.
Your argument about franziska also doesn't work cause she whipped the judge right before she went and whips Phoenix unconscious. So that doesn't work either.
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Franziska was angry at Phoenix, not so much the Judge, and whipped him far more times. Though, like I said, I can accept 9-B durability. However, given the context of the Judge bruising himself, the gavel simply slipping out of his hands, we can't use that to scale his AP to his durability since it most certainly wouldn't take 9-B durability to survive that. Like I said in the previous thread, just because a lot of people scale to Wright, doesn't mean the Judge does for no reason.

Here's the 'feat' in question
 
The differences seem far too minor to actually matter. Same general story, same personality for the character. The only key difference, at this point in time, is that Wright is more powerful and has more abilities.
 
The heck.

That is no basis to say the judge is 9-B AP wise.

Either way I still feel like the general, overwhelming consensus here is to remove the anime parts.
 
This is only a nitpick. Technically not at one point. It always was like that cause he always had those powers. As well as every other lawyer. But regardless to that. That's just a nit pick.

There's one feat in specific that while happened in the game, it's not this big in degree. But the car explosion which got some pretty insane results (for this verse anyway). As

And yea it is. If he has 9-B durability and hits himself hard enough to leave a bruise mark, that's 9-B.

Anime being taken away from the game, fine. Since so many people agree: I won't it. But I still think it should be it's own key instead. Much like we have all versions of jaws as different keys. And anime key would make it easier since it shares a lot of similar stuff. Just different powers, links to different feats.
 
The fact almost everyone including average people in the verse scale to Phoenix was only a supporting reason why he scales.

He didn't drop it on his head or anything like that. It wasn't like he dropped it from above and it hit him. He smacked it into his head. If he dropped it, it wouldn't have touched him. He accidentally smacks it into his own face. His own force went into it. Had his force not went into the gavel, it would have fell forward and not even went his direction. But his own physically force smacked it towards his head. Meaning his force caused the bruising.
 
For the record, given the staggering amount of staff approval this already has, I've given Jacky the right to edit the profiles.
 
The equipment was brought up by Darkdragon earlier about why it was standard. Never really got acknowledged. But that should be still be talked about:
 
Thank you. I completely agree with the OP. I brought up these issues before so I'm glad they're being given light.

As soon as I laid eyes on Wright's profile and read through some of the evidence and such for his abilities and some stats, I knew something was very iffy.
 
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