The Amazing Digital Circus: Escaping From Being Outdated

[IDK3465]

We already accept the Candy Canyon Kingdom's implied sun, but it only received a possibly because we never see it, but we do see the starry skies and I don't see why people think they are fake especially since the Digital Circus is essentially the baseline reality due to 99% of the show taking place there, not to mention the constant day and night cycles that further imply that the starry skies are real.

I know how Reality Equalization works, don't worry, I'm also not denying the existence of the stars in the show, the thing I'm just cautious about is whether or not said stars and night skies are physical objects that can be interacted with, or simply 2D images that Caine put there to represent stars simply. I'm not denying the possibility of them being stars; in fact, given how the circus has enough processing power and storage to contain highly advanced AIs as well as literal human souls, it wouldn't be the most ridiculous idea in the world for the stars actually to be physically there. Still, I'm just saying, we can't ignore the fact that none of this is explicitly confirmed, so unless in EP 8 they go to space or some shit like that, we shouldn't be making any calls one way or the other on the nature of the stars in the series, that's why I think we should just leave it at "possibly".

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Don’t think we would disqualify a dimension from being 4-C just because characters did not travel to the Sun.

 

[Edutyn]

Bump

 

[Psychomaster35]

Can you list new abilities that you want to added?. Sorry but i got swamped with requests so i don't really have time to figure out what abilities.

I will evaluate this when i have time

Here are the new abilities being added

A reminder. No need to rush.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Weapon Mastery (Gooseworx states "He has a hard time understanding humans, but he tries his best. Even if his best ends up turning Pomni and the others into knife pincushions.", implying that Caine should still be able to use Throwing Knives as shown in the Teaser Trailer)

I think this is a possibly at best, Caine can mass spawn items so he doesn't need great accuracy if he keeps hurling knives. Plus the framing of the message makes it look like they're talking about his adventurers, so this can be just "Caine set-up some painful adventure." Personally I would not index this as anything, but if you insist.

Technology Manipulation (When describing the activities that may be included in The Tent, his eyes depicted the Microsoft Windows Blue Screen and he vocalized the dial-up Internet sound)

I don't really follow? Why are you assuming that his eyes showing that means he's literally controlling the computer rather than just manipulating data in accordance to the powers the programmers gave him? Same for the dial-up sound, at best that's sound manipulation.

Fire Manipulation, Magma Manipulation, and Temperature Manipulation (Created the Sun, who is hot enough to cook a shrimp from a distance. Created an active volcano)

I'm not sure if creating a sun and a volcano actually qualifies for temperature manipulation? We don't know the specifics, so he could've just spawned them after all.
Also shouldn't this also be Plasma Manipulation due to the sun? Also the active volcano probably doubles as Earth Manipulation.

Existence Erasure (Erased Gummigoo from the system with a snap of his fingers. Erased Abel from existence with a snap)

While he says delete with Abel, it does appear like he just turns the two info confetti, why assume full-on existence erasure? I think it's a possibly at best tbh.

Creation and Pocket Reality Manipulation (Upon Pomni appearing out of nowhere in The Amazing Digital Circus, Jax asked Caine if it was one of his NPCs, implying that Caine can create NPCs; Caine likely created the Gloink Queen, who creates Gloinks by eating props; Is capable of creating other AIs such as Bubble; Gummigoo states that they are "just obstacles created to be defeated and forgotten". Created pocket realities such as the Candy Canyon Kingdom, Mildenhall Manor, Spudsy's the Favorite Character Awards theater, and various other worlds represented as orbs in his office)

I feel like you can remove the first portion from this, since we just have direct statements of Caine creating NPCs

Soul Manipulation (Created ghosts within the Mildenhall Manor. The Inhabitant's souls are trapped inside of the Digital Circus after entering the Digital World, in which Caine should possibly have control over, however, Caine hasn't been shown this ability on-screen)

The first part I don't agree with as evidence, the ghosts Caine creates are just more code he's messing around with. Furthermore, while there are stuff that talks about him affecting the mind, we had nothing on the soul.
I think this a possibly at best, with the reasoning being that so far Caine has shown full control over everything inside the Circus, so potentially he can mess with people's souls.

Law Manipulation (Was able to say the word "ass" uncensored despite making a rule within the Digital Circus that swearing wasn't allowed to the point where the swear words would be censored if they tried to say them)

Is there a reason to assume he just didn't either apply the rule to himself or just remove it from himself to make the pun? He is the one imposing this law after all.

 

[Psychomaster35]

I think this is a possibly at best, Caine can mass spawn items so he doesn't need great accuracy if he keeps hurling knives. Plus the framing of the message makes it look like they're talking about his adventurers, so this can be just "Caine set-up some painful adventure." Personally I would not index this as anything, but if you insist.

I don't really follow? Why are you assuming that his eyes showing that means he's literally controlling the computer rather than just manipulating data in accordance to the powers the programmers gave him? Same for the dial-up sound, at best that's sound manipulation.

I feel like you can remove the first portion from this, since we just have direct statements of Caine creating NPCs

To be fair, these are just parts already on Caine's profile before I made the sandbox. The least I did was remove the "likely" part that was stated when he made the Gloink Queen.

I'm not sure if creating a sun and a volcano actually qualifies for temperature manipulation? We don't know the specifics, so he could've just spawned them after all.
Also shouldn't this also be Plasma Manipulation due to the sun? Also the active volcano probably doubles as Earth Manipulation.

The Sun has the ability to manipulate the heat around her as seen when she fried the shrimp (Hence the Temperature Manipulation), and since Caine made her, he should be able to scale to her. Also, yeah I'm fine with adding Plasma Manipulation and Earth Manipulation.

While he says delete with Abel, it does appear like he just turns the two info confetti, why assume full-on existence erasure? I think it's a possibly at best tbh.

Caine saying "Time to delete" before erasing Abel suggests that it's straight up Existence Erasure, so it should be fine as it is.

The first part I don't agree with as evidence, the ghosts Caine creates are just more code he's messing around with. Furthermore, while there are stuff that talks about him affecting the mind, we had nothing on the soul.
I think this a possibly at best, with the reasoning being that so far Caine has shown full control over everything inside the Circus, so potentially he can mess with people's souls.

The Digital Circus is already what we treat as the baseline reality for the series, and even if Caine coded them in, it would still be Soul Manipulation because he created these ghosts.

Is there a reason to assume he just didn't either apply the rule to himself or just remove it from himself to make the pun? He is the one imposing this law after all.

None of his actions really suggest that he removed the law off of himself only, especially given how he says "ass" uncensored after Zooble said "sex" censored and before Pomni said "ass" censored.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

The Sun has the ability to manipulate the heat around her as seen when she fried the shrimp (Hence the Temperature Manipulation), and since Caine made her, he should be able to scale to her.

Tbf I’m pretty sure we don’t scale creator to its creations in hax without a very specific reason like being a direct source of all of their powers (although on a personal level, I agree that he should logically have it)

 

[Tllmbrg]

To be fair, these are just parts already on Caine's profile before I made the sandbox. The least I did was remove the "likely" part that was stated when he made the Gloink Queen.

I mean, if we're revising the page might as well address those too. Still think the stuff I pointed here should be removed/rolled into other powers.

Caine saying "Time to delete" before erasing Abel suggests that it's straight up Existence Erasure, so it should be fine as it is.

I feel like that's still not concrete evidence, especially since Abel still explodes into confetti, which is not what I'd call Existence Erasure.
Possibly is better imo.

The Digital Circus is already what we treat as the baseline reality for the series, and even if Caine coded them in, it would still be Soul Manipulation because he created these ghosts.

Do we consider Caine as the one who coded the PCs in? I was under the impression he just controls them after the fact, and whatever trapped them/made their Avatars rn would be an outside process from them.

None of his actions really suggest that he removed the law off of himself only, especially given how he says "ass" uncensored after Zooble said "sex" censored and before Pomni said "ass" censored.

...? This literally implies he removed the restrictions from himself as far as I'm concerned, plus again, why would he self-limit himself with his own powers?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

...? This literally implies he removed the restrictions from himself as far as I'm concerned, plus again, why would he self-limit himself with his own powers?

Pretty sure the restriction is universal to everyone since the underlying reason behind it is “to keep TADC friendly for all ages” or something like that.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Pretty sure the restriction is universal to everyone since the underlying reason behind it is “to keep TADC friendly for all ages” or something like that.

Okay but if one goes "Caine made this rule" rather than it being something beyond him, he categorically can not have a resistance to it
Either he has the law resistance or the law hax

 

[Psychomaster35]

Can you list new abilities that you want to added?. Sorry but i got swamped with requests so i don't really have time to figure out what abilities.

I will evaluate this when i have time

Still waiting...

 

[KingTempest]

Coulda swore i evaluated this, this is fine

 

[Psychomaster35]

Great! With 3 staff approvals (And a week since this CRT's creation), I'll get to applying what's been accepted.

 

[IDK3465]

Great! With 3 staff approvals (And a week since this CRT's creation), I'll get to applying what's been accepted.

While we’re at it (and because I just realized this a second ago), but because we’re treating the circus as the baseline reality for the verse, and that Caine’s manipulation of the code has an actual physical influence on the reality of the circus, wouldn’t that mean Caine would qualify for info manip type 2, or am I missing something regarding the standards on this sort of thing?