Perpetua and other stuff

[Houston_989]

We're shown that Perpetua easily created the three brothers (Monitor, Anti-Monitor and World Forget). They're shown standing in the 6th dimension and Perpetua was sent to create worlds and systems in the greater omniverse. She also mentions a being that grants her her powers as well as the brothers. She grants each brother authority of an aspect of matter, World Forger-dark matter, Monitor-regular matter, AM-antimatter. We're shown her molding the multiverse and literally holds it in her hands.

 

[Heatforce]

Didn't she also state that other beings exists that create other multiverses? This is getting crazy. DC has really amped their cosmology.

 

[Houston_989]

Yeah, she did.

 

[Catalyst75]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Catalyst75/Chronology_and_Structure_of_the_DC_Cosmology

Well, it seems I may have to re-write a few things from my beginning narration.

It is curious that the Antimatter Universe's original purpose was to act as the original boundary separating the Multiverse from the Overvoid.

It also very much solidifies the cosmic pecking order in the DC hierarchy. Even though Perpetua's hand created the Multiverse, the Source created her, gave her the power to create the Multiverse and her sons, and its messenger was what sealed her away in the Source Wall.

 

[Elizio33]

She also created the dark multiverse and the emotional spectrum

 

[Heatforce]

I do hope DC attempts to relate the endless to the cosmology; particularly death i.e. how death releates to necron, black racer maybe even black flash. Also, are the endlesst the same accross the multiverse or even the 'omniverse'?

 

[AKM sama]

How would it affect the characters' ratings?

 

[Catalyst75]

Well, the Source is now definitely high 1-A (according to site tiering) and potentially 0 tier or within a hair's breadth of omnipotence. The Source routinely creates beings who create Multiverses, and the current story claims her brothers and sisters tend infinite multiverses within the Omniverse.

So, the Source has created an infinite number of beings responsible for creating an infinite number of Multiverses.

 

[Elizio33]

I think Perpetua should be 1-B. She created the oceanic subconscious realm which almost everythings float on and she should be equal or superior to Mandrakk.

 

[AKM sama]

There's another thread discussing DC revisions: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2778608#267

 

[AKM sama]

I think Perpetua should be 1-B. She created the oceanic subconscious realm which almost everythings float on and she should be equal or superior to Mandrakk.

Do we even have a page for her tho?

 

[Elizio33]

Not yet

 

[Catalyst75]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Catalyst75/Chronology_and_Structure_of_the_DC_Cosmology

How does it look?

 

[Catalyst75]

I think Perpetua should be 1-B. She created the oceanic subconscious realm which almost everythings float on and she should be equal or superior to Mandrakk.

I would say definitely superior to Mandrakk. Mandrakk was the first of the race created by Mar Novu, one of her children, and the Bleed which Mandrakk feeds off of is, like everything else in the DC Multiverse, among what Perpetua first created.

 

[Elizio33]

You are probably right, Perpetua should be superior to Mandrakk. Despite the sixth dimension exist beyond the monitor sphere, it seems to be still related to the multiverse and does not transcend the multiverse completely yet, the sixth dimension does not float on the dark multiverse like the multiverse but maybe i'm wrong.

 

[Catalyst75]

I don't think there's ambiguity about where the Sixth Dimension is in relation to the Dark Multiverse. The Dark Multiverse, Multiverse and Antimatter Universe exist together within, as Perpetua described it, a tripartite form. While the map doesn't show the Antimatter Universe or the Dark Multiverse, the two are still intrinsically connected to the Positive Matter Universe, with the Antimatter Universe (and later the Source Wall) being the boundary between the Multiverse and the Overvoid.

All three were made by Perpetua in the Sixth Dimension, and it is explicity stated to be the "control room" for the Multiverse. From there, all three realms can be controlled.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Well, the Source is now definitely high 1-A (according to site tiering) and potentially 0 tier or within a hair's breadth of omnipotence. The Source routinely creates beings who create Multiverses, and the current story claims her brothers and sisters tend infinite multiverses within the Omniverse.
So, the Source has created an infinite number of beings responsible for creating an infinite number of Multiverses.

not really considering each entity that are her brothers and sisters are 1B since they creat multiverses simular to DC the multiverse aka 1B making every charater that dose so 1B making an infinet number of them is like high 1B(infinet dimensional since ya know in dc(and on this site) if you are just 1D above someone you are infinetly more powerful then them and making an infinet number of them would be like writing on paper for said charater) or 1A and we all already know that source is quite high into the 1A tier

 

[Spinoirr]

Wondering wheb you would talk about this

 

[Catalyst75]

Well, the Source is now definitely high 1-A (according to site tiering) and potentially 0 tier or within a hair's breadth of omnipotence. The Source routinely creates beings who create Multiverses, and the current story claims her brothers and sisters tend infinite multiverses within the Omniverse.
So, the Source has created an infinite number of beings responsible for creating an infinite number of Multiverses.

not really considering each entity that are her brothers and sisters are 1B since they creat multiverses simular to DC the multiverse aka 1B making every charater that dose so 1B making an infinet number of them is like high 1B(infinet dimensional since ya know in dc(and on this site) if you are just 1D above someone you are infinetly more powerful then them and making an infinet number of them would be like writing on paper for said charater) or 1A and we all already know that source is quite high into the 1A tier

That was before the implication the Source is now above the Overvoid, since a clear division now exists between the two. We're going to need to see the conclusion of this arc to get anything concrete, but that how it appears.