Pelinal VS Kriemchild Gretchin

[ZacharyGrossman273]

UKG starts at 5-B, Pelinal starts at high 4-C. Speed equalized.

DEUS VULT: 1

Which witch would watch which watch

 

[Kaltias]

This doesn't look fair

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You know, considering the nature of both characters, I'm genuinely curious. Which side stomps?

 

[Kaltias]

Depends from how the Madness works.

If it's passive/automatic or something, Pelinal wins by virtue of 1-A being > 2-A.

If he can be incapacitated passively/it's an active ability he doesn't lead with, UKG does.

She definitely can't kill him if his nonexistent physiology is tier 1, that's for sure

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

IIRC, he does need to activate it, and he only becomes nonexistent if he uses it. IIRC he does use it a lot in character.

 

[The_Causality]

Hey, it's isn't the guy which has been F.R.E.E.Z.E by a The God of Eternity?

 

[Kaltias]

The point was more "if he can be erased on a 1-A level and live to tell the tale UKG isn't killing him for good"

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

To my knowledge, it's essentially, "As soon as he gets angry, he gets passive 1-A erasure as well as 1-A nonexistent physiology"

But not actually passive

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Pelinal enters madness and yeets her out of existence, while simultaneously being in a state where virtually nothing can affect him.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah, the problem starts with him "entering madness" before UKG exists very hard in front of him, corrupting him and turning him into the strongest Avatar of Calamity ever.

Pelinal has resistance to like, almost nothing.

 

[PaChi2]

Yeah, the problem starts with him "entering madness" before UKG exists very hard in front of him, corrupting him and turning him into the strongest Avatar of Calamity ever.

Pelinal has resistance to like, almost nothing.

>Strongest Avatar of Calamity.

Hmm.... That sounds like the plot for an arc.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Resistance to Elves

 

[PaChi2]

Isnt Gretchen like the embodiment of a 2-A multiverse or something? Even at 5-B

 

[Kaltias]

No. She doesn't really embody anything, although she is essentially the cumulative despair of the magical girls in the multiverse (which is essentially a fancy way to say that she is the composite PMMM witch)

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

What are her passive again??

 

[Kaltias]

I don't remember myself, the list is too long.

Corruption, fate manipulation and eye-based power null are the main ones that I recall out of the top of my head

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

traditional power null is not going to work.Fate manipulation gets neg by type 4 acasuality.

 

[Kaltias]

Why it won't? He lacks any form of resistance.

He doesn't have type 4 without the Madness.

There is also the possibility of UKG remembering "wait, I have precog" and using a power out of basically all of them.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

how is her power null going to affect his madness it is a 1A thing.

sorry about that i thought that his type 4 acausality is without the madness.

 

[Kaltias]

It doesn't affect the Madness, it affects Pelinal himself. Her power null is essentially turning people into normal humans when looking at them. She is not negating the Madness, more preventing him from activating it.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

so like WF power null.

 

[RKGenki]

Passive: Corruption (corrupts mind, body and soul and transforms the affected into the Avatar of Calamity) Poison Manipulation, Holy manipulation (destroys you based on your sins, with an absurd level of morality), Fate Manipulation, Invisibility, intangibility, non corporeality, Death manipulation, Magic nullification, limited luck manipulation (she has good luck granted from a mg who wished to win the lottery to save her grandfather's restaurant), Power Nullification (Eye-Based, works on beings resistant to power null), absorption, wealth production (don't ask), unaffected by any physical phenomena including time, Curse reversal, territory claiming via spreading rotting moss coupled with a "tremendous" increase in power inside it.

This is the list of UKG's passives. It's also missing some stuff from some Magi Reco witches

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

curse reversal is definately uselful since Pelinal does have curses.

 

[RKGenki]

She obviously wins thanks to her wealth production, allowing her to buy the rights on the TES franchise and adding herself in it as the stronkest

 

[PaChi2]

so like WF power null.

we dont speak of that.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Is this even fair to either of them.

Non-Bloodlusted Pelinal just stands there while UKG buys the rights of TES and becomes the strongest character in the verse.

Bloodlusted Pelinal yeets her away via Madness.

 

[Kaltias]

It's not. I didn't close it only because Zach wanted to know who stomps and I was like "idk how Madness works, wait for people who know TES more than the guy who has TESO but can't play it due to crappy PC"

 

[Ultima_Reality]

the guy who has TESO but can't play it due to crappy PC

riiip

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Well I feel dumb now.

This can probably be closed.

 

[Kaltias]

Eh, matches between smurfs are stomps almost all the time, it's not your fault.

I'll close this