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Damage how did u even link that video when it's licensed and blocked by Viz
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Part II: Naruto LS statements
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What do you mean? Is the video blocked for you?AstralKing7 said:
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>Jutsu that Naruto can't dodge
>Naruto sage mode reacting towards 3rd raikage
Dude Sigurd it's a jutsu that Kishi throughly would be cool. Him giving it the name light fang has noting to do with any other jutsu.
The same reason why we don't downgrade special beam canon because a character in DBS can move at light speed which was considered fast despite their being MfTl characters
Even then u argue agaisnt one of fear seriously bro?? Sasuke? U do understand that Sasuke fought killer bee and damn Ay which are two feats of consistency
What's even crazier tho. KBs Lariet was enhanced by Tailed beast chakra. That automatically scales above Ays Lariet which Sasuke dodged
>Naruto sage mode reacting towards 3rd raikage
Dude Sigurd it's a jutsu that Kishi throughly would be cool. Him giving it the name light fang has noting to do with any other jutsu.
The same reason why we don't downgrade special beam canon because a character in DBS can move at light speed which was considered fast despite their being MfTl characters
Even then u argue agaisnt one of fear seriously bro?? Sasuke? U do understand that Sasuke fought killer bee and damn Ay which are two feats of consistency
What's even crazier tho. KBs Lariet was enhanced by Tailed beast chakra. That automatically scales above Ays Lariet which Sasuke dodged
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@Sigurd
I never said that Sasuke Taka is Mach 400K. I do not believe it to be Rel +, but Rel, just like Saitama and etc are by the same kind of statement, is completely valid. For me, 10% of SoL (as DDM said about Saitama's case), is of good size.
Using a hyperbole to justify this, it's nonsense! There are 2 interpretations of this feat in specific, and have already been discussed until death. To say that it was "undodgable" and blablabla, has no meaning and was possibly contradicted in the manga and contradicted in Anime.
Feats >>> Statement
You do not have to have SoL, so you can react to SoL.
According to Databook, Ay is almost at the speed of light, he could yes, react and attack Madara and Muu from a distance. From a distance, he may know what to do. Just like someone pilots a supersonic plane.
I never said or agreed with Sasuke Taka Rel+.
However, the Databook is consistent and extremely slower fodders even than Sasuke Hebi (like Shino), are Mach 6800+. Being a dozen times faster is not inconsistency.
God Tiers has not feat, anything except the possible LF. And they all scales at Mid Tiers at most.
I never said that Sasuke Taka is Mach 400K. I do not believe it to be Rel +, but Rel, just like Saitama and etc are by the same kind of statement, is completely valid. For me, 10% of SoL (as DDM said about Saitama's case), is of good size.
Using a hyperbole to justify this, it's nonsense! There are 2 interpretations of this feat in specific, and have already been discussed until death. To say that it was "undodgable" and blablabla, has no meaning and was possibly contradicted in the manga and contradicted in Anime.
Feats >>> Statement
You do not have to have SoL, so you can react to SoL.
According to Databook, Ay is almost at the speed of light, he could yes, react and attack Madara and Muu from a distance. From a distance, he may know what to do. Just like someone pilots a supersonic plane.
I never said or agreed with Sasuke Taka Rel+.
However, the Databook is consistent and extremely slower fodders even than Sasuke Hebi (like Shino), are Mach 6800+. Being a dozen times faster is not inconsistency.
God Tiers has not feat, anything except the possible LF. And they all scales at Mid Tiers at most.
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What in the world does special beam cannon have to do with what we're seeing here? DBS Goku is scaled to like trillions of times the speed of light or something. As a matter of fact special beam cannon's speed comes from a calc and is a far cry from where they're at now.
> just a jutsu he thought would be cool What? So you're saying it served no purpose except for cool points? That makes no sense. How was he trying to be cool by saying it's impossible to avert.
The fact is this is ridiculous when all these feats belong to relatively low tiers in comparison to the god tiers that have no feats near this level at all.
> just a jutsu he thought would be cool What? So you're saying it served no purpose except for cool points? That makes no sense. How was he trying to be cool by saying it's impossible to avert.
The fact is this is ridiculous when all these feats belong to relatively low tiers in comparison to the god tiers that have no feats near this level at all.
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I think Kep said OPM characters are 50 percent the speed of light if that is Rel+?
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God tiers don't even have speed feats. I don't even know what "god tiers that have no feats near this level at all" have to do here. You know that they actually scales from a fodder, right? How do you expect god tier with feats if you claim outlier and talk alresdy debunked stuff?
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@Sigurd It's 498 quadrillion times FTL.
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@mostPowerful
M3X literally made a calc of it and it's mach 400k with a lowball based off what he said. The fact that god tier have no real feat is Kishimoto's fault.
I never said you need to be LS to dodge something LS, I said Rel+ is within the realm of speed where you can dodge them.
M3X literally made a calc of it and it's mach 400k with a lowball based off what he said. The fact that god tier have no real feat is Kishimoto's fault.
I never said you need to be LS to dodge something LS, I said Rel+ is within the realm of speed where you can dodge them.
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@M3X; Sasuke and Naruto do have that feat of reacting to lightning that Madara shoots at them.
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Hey, you're the one who said the God Tiers have no feats. I was merely supplying a feat that they have. If the result of it is low, then that doesn't mean it is dismissed as irrelevant.
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@M3X
You legit debunked nothing dude, you keep saying you've debunked things.
How does them scaling from Shino mean anything? Most of the entire verse apparently scales to Shino after a 20 year timeskip.
You legit debunked nothing dude, you keep saying you've debunked things.
How does them scaling from Shino mean anything? Most of the entire verse apparently scales to Shino after a 20 year timeskip.
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@Sigurd
Even if it's ... What's the problem? We have a giant up of force and a gigantic speed gap.
We have an insane chain blitz, pretty much identical to what happened to Nanatsu. They were MHS+, and they discovered a Rel+ feat.
The same happens here, on a larger scale, because High-Top Tier have the feat in Naruto.
Yes, I know it's Kishimoto's fault.
Yes ... So why say it's absurd, when Top Tier and God Tier scales to fodder's absurdly slower than themselves?
Even if it's ... What's the problem? We have a giant up of force and a gigantic speed gap.
We have an insane chain blitz, pretty much identical to what happened to Nanatsu. They were MHS+, and they discovered a Rel+ feat.
The same happens here, on a larger scale, because High-Top Tier have the feat in Naruto.
Yes, I know it's Kishimoto's fault.
Yes ... So why say it's absurd, when Top Tier and God Tier scales to fodder's absurdly slower than themselves?
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It's irrelevant because they scale above it already
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We don't upscale chain blitz, it's why they were MHS. Meliodas is the top 3 strongest beings in the verse so far and he's the one who did the feat. How does this help you?
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Madara being able to react to lightspeed is inconsistent with Madara also being blitzed by Rock Lee later in the arc. Madara's physical movements were restricted due to the Shadowing Binding on the 10-Tails but having his movements restricted would do nothing to stop him from summoning his Susano'o to defend himself from Rock Lee's attack.
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Lol Sigurd you must be blind. I've debunked you in the first thread. You don't even knoe about consistency and start talking shit about it.
The whole verse scale from Shino, Shino is fodder. There are a lot of characters faster than Shino and a huge blitz chain. You don't have an argument against the consistency.
The whole verse scale from Shino, Shino is fodder. There are a lot of characters faster than Shino and a huge blitz chain. You don't have an argument against the consistency.
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Not when the verse has a gigantic power gap and a higher tier, it has a greater feat than the lower tier.
How does that not help me? It is literally to say that the strongest and fastest characters need to scales to the weakest, even the weakest have a feat that follows a consistent little ladder.
How does that not help me? It is literally to say that the strongest and fastest characters need to scales to the weakest, even the weakest have a feat that follows a consistent little ladder.
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@Sigurd??? Impossible to advert??? Really bro?? Your saying that when that's the one part of the text we don't use man that didn't get it accepted at light speed
Try again bro cause now u just wasted some of the comment space with your logic.
Saying it other jutsus are light speed because one can't be avoided is a trash argument because of the fact that your using hype text which we didn't use for the light fang in the first place to get it accepted
Try again bro cause now u just wasted some of the comment space with your logic.
Saying it other jutsus are light speed because one can't be avoided is a trash argument because of the fact that your using hype text which we didn't use for the light fang in the first place to get it accepted
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@Damage
The name of this is Inconsistency and Outlier.
Or are you saying that Rock Lee is faster than Ay, who was matched to Naruto KCM or slightly slower?
The name of this is Inconsistency and Outlier.
Or are you saying that Rock Lee is faster than Ay, who was matched to Naruto KCM or slightly slower?
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@M3X:
> The whole verse scale from Shino, Shino is fodder.
This was still never made clear. Exactly what version of the characters scale from that version of Shino, and how?
> The whole verse scale from Shino, Shino is fodder.
This was still never made clear. Exactly what version of the characters scale from that version of Shino, and how?
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@Damage
Any version on the level of Sasuke Hebi (or even Sasuke Begin of the Series).
Any version on the level of Sasuke Hebi (or even Sasuke Begin of the Series).
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@MostPowerfull; and how does Hebi Sasuke scale to Shino from 20 years after the end of Shippuden?
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Shino scales to Mitsuki man lmao. Who scales to Orochimaru who didn't get any stronger better yet he probably got weaker
In simpler terms. Sasuke(Hebi)>Mitsuki. Do I need to explain why Sasuke scales to Mitsuki because I hope not man
In simpler terms. Sasuke(Hebi)>Mitsuki. Do I need to explain why Sasuke scales to Mitsuki because I hope not man
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@Damage
Are you saying that Shino is on the same level as Sasuke Hebi? So is he as fast as Itachi too? Gods ... I did not read that!
Shino is a fodder, it's just a Mid Tier. Sasuke is one of the highest on the Mid Tiers scale.
Any character, even Kakuzu and Kakashi BoS, scales to Shino Adult...
Are you saying that Shino is on the same level as Sasuke Hebi? So is he as fast as Itachi too? Gods ... I did not read that!
Shino is a fodder, it's just a Mid Tier. Sasuke is one of the highest on the Mid Tiers scale.
Any character, even Kakuzu and Kakashi BoS, scales to Shino Adult...
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Hype text? Last I checked this was a part of the description of light fang.
Assuming Taka Sasuke is Mach 400k at least is completely illogical in what the series depicts at that point in time.
@MostPowerful
If anyone else did that feat in NNT it would be an outlier for sure. The calculated speeds of Naruto as of now are consistently MHS+.
Assuming Taka Sasuke is Mach 400k at least is completely illogical in what the series depicts at that point in time.
@MostPowerful
If anyone else did that feat in NNT it would be an outlier for sure. The calculated speeds of Naruto as of now are consistently MHS+.
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@MostPowerfull; No. I did not say that. I was asking you to explain your reasoning.
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... Kakashi at the beginning of the series is only rated as being At least High Hypersonic.MostPowerfull said:
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@Sigurd
Most of the feats come from low Mid Tiers.
And now, we have a feat of a High Tier (or Top Tier, I dont know) above them.
What's the problem exactly? You want a stepladder... "First, you have to go through the Sub-Rel, then the Sub-Rel +, and yes, we can accept that ..."?
Most of the feats come from low Mid Tiers.
And now, we have a feat of a High Tier (or Top Tier, I dont know) above them.
What's the problem exactly? You want a stepladder... "First, you have to go through the Sub-Rel, then the Sub-Rel +, and yes, we can accept that ..."?
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@Damage
Shino scales to Mitsuki.
Sasuke Hebi >>> Mitsuki and Shino.
Simple! Or for you, Shino Adult has prowess at the level of Sasuke Hebi or above, because he had a greater speed (which was accepted, of course!), technically...
Shino scales to Mitsuki.
Sasuke Hebi >>> Mitsuki and Shino.
Simple! Or for you, Shino Adult has prowess at the level of Sasuke Hebi or above, because he had a greater speed (which was accepted, of course!), technically...
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Sasuke has literally two rel+ feats so what's the point???
Possible 1 light speed feat for Itachi himself in the war arc
Possible 1 light speed feat for Itachi himself in the war arc
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@Damage
This is Kid Kakashi. And I said BoS = Beginning of Shippuden, but I may have mispronounced this part.
This is Kid Kakashi. And I said BoS = Beginning of Shippuden, but I may have mispronounced this part.
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