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Paper Mario's inclusion in the standard Mario profile has been a bizarre thing, especially for people who use this site in debates outside of this wiki.
The current explanation for Paper Mario's inclusion in the profile is based on the following statement on the Mario page:
"Despite the confusion of the Mario Bros franchise canon due to its 5th installment of the Mario and Luigi series, Paper Jam, several games such as Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 5, and other installment has made several connections to the Paper Mario franchise which establish the series to be part of the same verse. It should be noted that the Paper Mario series has made several connections to other games as well with an interview of the creator confirming that the overall franchise having no canon to speak of. As such, the character that appears in the Paper Mario series is still the same character from other installments."
However, I am here to prove that the two Marios are different Marios.
Argument 1: No canon to speak of.
Having no canon doesn't mean as much as you would think at first glance. Several games could safely be considered as non-canon, at least to the extent that they should not be included in a discussion of the "timeline" of Mario games, namely games such as Mario Teaches Typing and other such games. There also is a clear distinction between other media related to Mario, such as the Super Mario Brothers Super Show and the video games. I do not propose that Paper Mario is a different continuity, I propose that he is simply an alternate version of Mario, as this is heavily implied throughout the game, as he did come from "another world". This would fit within the idea there is no canon to speak of and explain why they appear as separate characters in Paper Jam. Speaking of which...
Argument 2: The Paper style simply being a storytelling method.
A rebuttal I have heard commonly on this wiki is that Paper Mario is canonically a storybook, and the paper styling is simply a medium for it. This is proven false in literally the first 30 seconds of the first Paper Mario game starting, where Bowser alters the book by using tape to write himself into it. This wouldn't matter if it wasn't for the fact that it was actual tape, along with the fact he altered the story book.
Another instance of this is when in the same game, Mario is unharmed by a large fall because he simply floated down due to him being made of paper, and again in a dungeon where Mario can acquire a 1 Up by slipping through a small crack on the side of the cell due to him being made out of paper.
Water is seen as deadly as it supposedly melts anyone who touches it, people make constant references to the fact that they are their surroundings consist of paper, and the Origiami King practically proves it as the entire game revolves around the fact that origami exists.
Conclusion
I propose that the feats and abilities and such sources from Paper Mario games be removed, and added to the page we have on Paper Mario from Paper Jam.
Thank you for your time.
The current explanation for Paper Mario's inclusion in the profile is based on the following statement on the Mario page:
"Despite the confusion of the Mario Bros franchise canon due to its 5th installment of the Mario and Luigi series, Paper Jam, several games such as Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 5, and other installment has made several connections to the Paper Mario franchise which establish the series to be part of the same verse. It should be noted that the Paper Mario series has made several connections to other games as well with an interview of the creator confirming that the overall franchise having no canon to speak of. As such, the character that appears in the Paper Mario series is still the same character from other installments."
However, I am here to prove that the two Marios are different Marios.
Argument 1: No canon to speak of.
Having no canon doesn't mean as much as you would think at first glance. Several games could safely be considered as non-canon, at least to the extent that they should not be included in a discussion of the "timeline" of Mario games, namely games such as Mario Teaches Typing and other such games. There also is a clear distinction between other media related to Mario, such as the Super Mario Brothers Super Show and the video games. I do not propose that Paper Mario is a different continuity, I propose that he is simply an alternate version of Mario, as this is heavily implied throughout the game, as he did come from "another world". This would fit within the idea there is no canon to speak of and explain why they appear as separate characters in Paper Jam. Speaking of which...
Argument 2: The Paper style simply being a storytelling method.
A rebuttal I have heard commonly on this wiki is that Paper Mario is canonically a storybook, and the paper styling is simply a medium for it. This is proven false in literally the first 30 seconds of the first Paper Mario game starting, where Bowser alters the book by using tape to write himself into it. This wouldn't matter if it wasn't for the fact that it was actual tape, along with the fact he altered the story book.
Another instance of this is when in the same game, Mario is unharmed by a large fall because he simply floated down due to him being made of paper, and again in a dungeon where Mario can acquire a 1 Up by slipping through a small crack on the side of the cell due to him being made out of paper.
Water is seen as deadly as it supposedly melts anyone who touches it, people make constant references to the fact that they are their surroundings consist of paper, and the Origiami King practically proves it as the entire game revolves around the fact that origami exists.
Conclusion
I propose that the feats and abilities and such sources from Paper Mario games be removed, and added to the page we have on Paper Mario from Paper Jam.
Thank you for your time.
