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Overlord: Despair Aura

Maraderchik

Maraderchik

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Should we made it ON by default or Ainz going into battle without his passive skill activate? Only one reason it doesn't permanently turned on like his immunity to low level magic and physical damage is it inconvenient in daily life.

OpMasada in Ancologia vs Ainz thread arguing that if he usually turn it off. then he shouldn't be allowed to have it from the beginning and he didn't turn this spell right off the bat.

We need to agree on this topic because it's quite serious point in Ainz's battles on the site.

And minor question can Ainz not bring his AOG Staff in vsbattle or it's not in his competence?
 
What? Of course he can bring his staff. Why wouldnt he? Its standard equipment. If we allow perfect warrior, we allow the staff.

Ainz is going into a full on battle, that's all he knows. Why WOULDNT he have his aura passively on? Or use Detect Life to see the amount of HP his enemy has THEN toggle it on
 
>What? Of course he can bring his staff. Why wouldnt he? Its standard equipment. If we allow perfect warrior, we allow the staff.

Let me explain why i think he rather wouldn't want to bring AOG staff in battle. While there a good chance to be killed and possible resurrected, there absolutely no chance to bring back his staff from destroyed condition which is basically AOG destruction.
 
True, but theres also nothing stopping him from just using Gate in front of him and just grabbing the staff through the portal, so its still accessible when he needs it. Or just instantly teleport to nazarick and grab it then go back.

All im saying is that if he wishes, he can easily get it.
 
Like I said before, Ainz does not have it on for majority of the story for canonical reasons, it's off by default unless stated otherwise by OP.

If you want to argue he would simply turn it on right as the battle begins then provide proof.
 
Maraderchik said:
Why? There absolutely no reason to turn it off in Ygg, there just no things like friendly fire.
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When he first met the guardians ( in the arena ) It was stated that he had activated his skill, meaning it was never on before

Momonga could not speak as he looked at the six lowered heads before him. A strange pressure veiled the entire area, and perhaps only Momonga could bear the painful, crushing air.

—He did not know how to proceed.

He had never seen anything like this before in his life. In his confusion, Momonga accidentally activated a skill. A dreadful aura roiled out over the surroundings, and a halo of black radiance formed behind him.

The story confirmed it was despair aura:

The aura that Momonga emitted was the source of the power that had crushed the Guardians to the ground .

ÒÇîDespair AuraÒÇì.

Besides inflicting a fear effect, it could reduce the stats of its victims. Normally, it would not have an effect on the level one hundred NPCs, but on this occasion, its effects had been strengthened by the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown.

The only aura ever stated to be on before was simply an aura:

A red and black aura rose slowly from beneath his feet, and at a glance it seemed extremely ominous. This aura was not the result of any skill Momonga activated. It was simply because there had been extra room in the robe's data capacity, so the special effects data for a

ÒÇîDisaster AuraÒÇìhad been added into it. Touching that aura would not cause any harm.
 
Because scaring the hell out of everyone that gets close to you is very inconvenient.

He'd never use the staff in battle btw. If it's destroyed, the whole guild goes poof, and that's the last thing he'd want.
 
Jucaslucas said:
Because scaring the hell out of everyone that gets close to you is very inconvenient.
He'd never use the staff in battle btw. If it's destroyed, the whole guild goes poof, and that's the last thing he'd want.
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Read my above comment, friendly fire was not existent until NW transfer, "scaring the hell out of everyone" is not a good answer because there's no way he'd scare NPCs in his own guild within a video game.

I agree with the latter, I think it's mentioned in the LN that he would rather bring a fake staff in rather than his real one.
 
Jucaslucas said:
He wasn't always with his NPCs, he got out to the base as well.
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You mean outside the base? What the hell would it matter for him to have despair aura on? The only things he was doing outsode of his base was farming and the game was pretty much dead.
 
"Hey, I was farming yesterday and got this rare Dragon Tooth. Wanna buy it? Wait, why are you cowering in the corner . . . oh."
 
Anyway, about the staff, anybody else want to discuss whether ainz should automatically have it in VS debate?
 
About staff, i think it's will be reasonable if he didn't bring actual staff IF he have prep time and no bloodlusted.
 
If Ainz has prep time or is bloodlusted, then he should have the aura automatically activated. He should only use his staff if bloodlusted AND with prep time, since you can't normally teleport or open a gate directly to the interior of Nazarick from the outside. Ainz had to use Cash Shop items that he configured beforehand to do something comparable in his fight with Shalltear.
 
FDrybob said:
If Ainz has prep time or is bloodlusted, then he should have the aura automatically activated. He should only use his staff if bloodlusted AND with prep time, since you can't normally teleport or open a gate directly to the interior of Nazarick from the outside. Ainz had to use Cash Shop items that he configured beforehand to do something comparable in his fight with Shalltear.
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Actually, no. In the latest episode of Overlord, he's shown to use the Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown to directly teleport to his throne room from the Worker's Camp outside. So yes, Ainz can just teleport in and grab it when he wishes. Bad quality but here it directly shows him in the camp and teleporting straight to his throne room

He had to use those sticks against Shalltear because it's faster and he needs to do it in the midst of battle, PLUS you can't even use the Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown to go to the treasury so he NEEDED to use the cash shop items. Teleporting in quickly isn't an option unlike the Staff. ALSO ALSO, he needed to equip several items in quick succession rather than the singular staff we're talking about, so repeatedly teleporting in and out would be a complete hassle AND throw him off should Shalltear move around and he teleports back.
 
Bringing the staff into battle puts into risk the most important thing in the world to him. Don't think he'd bring it to a fight, even bloodlusted.

He's more likely to go grab those 2 Twenty WCI.
 
Also, I don't think it matters that much. The staff is pretty much featless, we know nearly nothing about what it can do, so I don't think it'd affect the outcome of any vsBattle
 
>The staff is pretty much featless

At least it's:

Besides inflicting a fear effect, it could reduce the stats of its victims. Normally, it would not have an effect on the level 100 NPCs, but on this occasion, its effects had been strengthened by the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gow
 
@Akreious

I disagree. The ring doesn't allow you use teleportation spells to get inside; the ring itself is what teleports you in there. This makes sense if you consider the fact that not all of the guild members had access to teleportation spells. Therefore, Ainz can't open up a gate into the room where his staff is stored. Even then, I'm pretty sure he's put some kind of extra protection around it in case an enemy steals a ring of Ainz Ooal Gown. Either way, he'll never use the staff unless he's bloodlusted.
 
>Therefore, Ainz can't open up a gate into the room

Most likely whole throne room banned to any kind of teleportation with some kind of spell or item.
 
> Provided blatant evidence of Ainz teleporting right in front of his throne room where his staff is situated at

Okay then.
 
I mean I don't see why OP can't specify that Ainz has the staff if they want it to be available to him, if its normally OOC to use it.
 
Despair Aura Level 5 (The "Instant Death" aura thing) will automatically be on in any bloodlusted battle and depending on the circumstances, still debating about the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown (Also to address the above, he never needed to. The only person who's able to challenge him so far (Shalltear) didn't even require him to do so as he made an entirely different plan which he said "Worked flawlessly").
 
Why would Despair Aura 5 be on automatically? He doesn't leave it on all the time, so he can't just start with it unless he has prep.
 
Jucaslucas said:
Why would Despair Aura 5 be on automatically? He doesn't leave it on all the time, so he can't just start with it unless he has prep.
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In a bloodlusted match, he's... well... bloodlusted. The better question would be why WOULDN'T he passively have it on if he just had a murder boner for everything? It's literally a toggle-based ability, at worst he could toggle it on the first millisecond the match starts.

Also it's been debated to hell and back already that the ONLY reason why he doesn't leave it on is because it's inconvenient in normal day-to-day activities in the New World. At worst, he goes to try and save that village from Episode 1 and everyone around him drops dead. At best, everyone around him gets insanely freaked out. Both of which isn't exactly good for information gathering.
 
Jucaslucas said:
Why would Despair Aura 5 be on automatically? He doesn't leave it on all the time, so he can't just start with it unless he has prep.
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Uh, because its bloodlusted?....
 
Akreious said:
> Provided blatant evidence of Ainz teleporting right in front of his throne room where his staff is situated at
Okay then.
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His real staff is protected by Aureole Omega. The one in the throne room that he uses is a fake.
 
Has anybody applied the accepted changes?
 
FDrybob said:
Akreious said:
> Provided blatant evidence of Ainz teleporting right in front of his throne room where his staff is situated at
Okay then.
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His real staff is protected by Aureole Omega. The one in the throne room that he uses is a fake.
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"Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown is a type of ring whose use was solely for traveling in and out within the Great Tomb of Nazarick. It allows the wearer to travel instantaneously anywhere within the confines of the necropolis except a few specific areas. Additionally, it is also capable of instantly changing its size to fit its user's finger size."

Sounds like he could at least go to the entrance of where Omega is and grab it then. It won't count as a self BFR nor KO.
 
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