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Our Thoughts Become Reality: Niimi Kakeru vs Aoi Hayanose
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Hm, not sure about who is Kakeru, but his profile doesnt show resistance to plot manipulation, so, at least, Aoi should be able to incap, I guess
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So what can Kakeru do against Aoi's Almighty?
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What's almighty?
To explain some of Kakeru's abilities, there is another Kakeru who is connected to him, that has the same soul, personality etc but is from a distant universe.
This character can observe parallel worlds, time travel, rewind time etc. That Kakeru manipulates fate to prevent the other Kakeru's failure, You can basically think of all the Kakeru's in the multiverse as his avatars, cause what he basically does is travel to different parallel worlds or past, and then installs his memories into them, so they know what he does, which includes stuff from other parallel worlds.
Kakeru has the ability to prune timelines, this involves negating undesired outcomes, doing this stops universes from existing after a point. Timelines only exist up to where he observed, after that it doesn't exist anymore, due to Kakeru negating fate.
This Kakeru is preventing the failure of the other Kakeru, manipulating fate, rewinding time, even time travelling to past if needed.
To explain some of Kakeru's abilities, there is another Kakeru who is connected to him, that has the same soul, personality etc but is from a distant universe.
This character can observe parallel worlds, time travel, rewind time etc. That Kakeru manipulates fate to prevent the other Kakeru's failure, You can basically think of all the Kakeru's in the multiverse as his avatars, cause what he basically does is travel to different parallel worlds or past, and then installs his memories into them, so they know what he does, which includes stuff from other parallel worlds.
Kakeru has the ability to prune timelines, this involves negating undesired outcomes, doing this stops universes from existing after a point. Timelines only exist up to where he observed, after that it doesn't exist anymore, due to Kakeru negating fate.
This Kakeru is preventing the failure of the other Kakeru, manipulating fate, rewinding time, even time travelling to past if needed.
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This is two weeks old but I was going though Aoi’s matches.
If his event overwrite is on a 4D level then he’d overpower hers. Best case scenario for Aoi is neither of them can reach the desired outcome because he just sends the timeline and she just doesn’t believe what he does and/or gets plot protected. Although to be fair she’s probably notice the alterations going on with Fate.
If his event overwrite is on a 4D level then he’d overpower hers. Best case scenario for Aoi is neither of them can reach the desired outcome because he just sends the timeline and she just doesn’t believe what he does and/or gets plot protected. Although to be fair she’s probably notice the alterations going on with Fate.
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His fate hax is indeed 4-D or limited 4-D, whatever you call it, since he can completely erase a timeline beyond a certain point.
He has acausality going on where a different world version of himself in another distant universe is manipulating fate, to guide things to a better conclusion.
If Kakeru dies or fails, time is rewinded to before that happen, and he now has memories from before, that happened. He can time travel or go to other parallel universes, he even tried time travelling to before his opponent got their powers to kill them so they never got them.
In addition he has a lot of other abilities, probability manipulation, subjective reality, supernatural luck, power nullification etc etc.
When i initially made this match, he wasn't as broken as he is now.
He has acausality going on where a different world version of himself in another distant universe is manipulating fate, to guide things to a better conclusion.
If Kakeru dies or fails, time is rewinded to before that happen, and he now has memories from before, that happened. He can time travel or go to other parallel universes, he even tried time travelling to before his opponent got their powers to kill them so they never got them.
In addition he has a lot of other abilities, probability manipulation, subjective reality, supernatural luck, power nullification etc etc.
When i initially made this match, he wasn't as broken as he is now.
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That's not his first move, that's like a last resort after everything else fails.
Normally the parallel world Kakeru is observing the timeline through the Kakeru's in said timeline, and guiding fate, it's when that timeline became screwed due to Yoichi gaining the same power as him, that he time travelled, cause other wise he couldn't kill Yoichi.
That said if the fate hax is enough time travel is unnecessary, this is a stomp. Yoichi, Kakeru and Iris are smurfs with the 4-D fate hax, and multiversal immortality, makes things a stomp.
Should i change this match to Haruka? She has no smurf hax.
Normally the parallel world Kakeru is observing the timeline through the Kakeru's in said timeline, and guiding fate, it's when that timeline became screwed due to Yoichi gaining the same power as him, that he time travelled, cause other wise he couldn't kill Yoichi.
That said if the fate hax is enough time travel is unnecessary, this is a stomp. Yoichi, Kakeru and Iris are smurfs with the 4-D fate hax, and multiversal immortality, makes things a stomp.
Should i change this match to Haruka? She has no smurf hax.
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I don’t know if Haruka can do anything against Plot manipulation. Most of her abilities seem fate reliant and instant death’s meta-fate (probably for the reason as Nee-Chan Chuniibyou with everyone having their own fate which are actually storylines but that’s never really touched on much) should triumph that. Aoi would just be protected from such effects or try to get a supercharged destiny value event that gains priority over whatever destiny her opponent is going towards.
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Her base ability is fate + subjective reality, basically whatever future she fantasizes about happens.
Mind hax, empathetic, biological all come from that, however she also can make any miracle happen, attacks always miss etc, that are different from the fate + subjective.
But yea if Aoi can get pass Haruka's probability and Supernatural luck, no point in changing it to her, would just close this due to being a stomp.
Mind hax, empathetic, biological all come from that, however she also can make any miracle happen, attacks always miss etc, that are different from the fate + subjective.
But yea if Aoi can get pass Haruka's probability and Supernatural luck, no point in changing it to her, would just close this due to being a stomp.
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