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Orochi (Koei) Upgrades

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By the way how would this affect people like Lu Bu, who Orochi massively respects in terms of power. Iirc in WO2's the final chapter of Wu orochi states that only Lu Bu has earned the right to face him in combat.
 
Mobi2 said:
By the way how would this affect people like Lu Bu, who Orochi massively respects in terms of power. Iirc in WO2's the final chapter of Wu orochi states that only Lu Bu has earned the right to face him in combat.
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As for Lu Bu, he's fought on par with Cyborg Nezha, who is capable of harming Orochi, putting him around the same range of power.

As for Warriors Orochi 4? We'd have to make a page for him, Warriors Orochi is a non canon spin-off after all.

He'd have two keys, base, and with the Ouroboros Bracelet.
 
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
Update, we may also add yet ANOTHER power--

Duplication, recently I've played DLC for Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate, and when battling him, he had made clones all of which seemingly had equal strength to battle the player.

You can do whatever you'd like for him, but if you did, here's what I have in mind to save time!

Tier: At least Low 2-C possibly 2-C | At least Low 2-C possibly 2-C

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Scythe Expert, Martial Arts, Reality Warping (Tore the continents of Japan and China as well as the surrounding areas and formed his own sub-reality out of said lands, as well as an extensive amount of new land created by Orochi himself which should make up the size of a universe, later confirmed by Loki in the 4th game that he planned to let the World Tree Yggdrasil, which is imbued with the power of Orochi's Scythe, destroy the alternate universe that Zeus created), Immortality (Type 1), Intangibility, Space-Time Manipulation (warped the Boundaries of Space and Time) Magic, Soul Manipulation, Forcefield Creation, Telekinesis (To some extent), Telepathy, Teleportation, Explosion Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Absorption of Life Energy, Creation, Illusion Creation, Memory Manipulation (Passive and physical. For starters, in Warriors Orochi 4, everyone who gazed upon Orochi immediately began to remember the events of the other games, although, for controlling it? After destroying Nezha, it was stated that Nezha lost some memories after being brought back and given cybernetic enhancements, which effected his personality, implying Orochi possibly erased those memories), Possible Existence Erasure (Fired a ball of energy at Nezha, destroying him completely), Duplication (as seen here), Transmutation (Turned his former weapon into a scythe), Resistance to Physical Damage, Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Air Manipulation (Weapons can hold these enchantments and more), Summoning of his armies and generals, likely far more unknown abilities

Attack Potency: At least Universe Level+ possibly Low Multiverse level (Can fight on par with Orochi X, and was even the one to create an alternate universe in the 3rd game, Zeus had used the power of Orochi's Scythe to create The Ouroboros Bracelets, alongside the power of the Mystic's and God's, Orochi is a Mystic himself, doomed eternal punishment. The bracelets made with his power act as a conduit to recreate the worlds he made back in the previous games) | At least Universe Level+ possibly Low Multiverse level (The Ouroboros Bracelets are made with the power of Orochi's Scythe, and it is stated that Orochi X is able to create the World Tree Yggdrasil, said tree able to absorb all the power in the world, in which he pours all his destructive energy into, it is also stated that the power of the World Tree Yggdrasil should be able to destroy all worlds, this including the alternate endings to Orochi 3: Ultimate, The Mystic Realm, Olympus, The World Zeus created inside of in the 4th game, which is a merging of the Samurai Warriors and Dynasty Warriors universes with Orochi's creations stacked on top, and lastly The Underworld where Hades dwells)

Durability: At least Universe Level+ possibly Low Multiverse level (Can take hits from the likes of Orochi X) | At least Universe Level+ possibly Low Multiverse level (Can take hits from Orochi's scythe)

Speed: Relativistic (Can keep up with Kaguya and other mystics, who attack with literal light) | At least Relativistic

Striking Strength: Universal+, possibly Low Multiversal (Should be comparable to Zeus, who can scale to others that survived lightning attacks from his staff, Orochi's scythe also being a catalyst for a tree that can destroy all worlds) | Universal+, possibly Low Multiversal

Range: Extended melee range, several meters with some attacks, unknown with magic and the like, miles away with telekinesis, low multiverse level with reality warping | Extended melee, several meters with some attacks, unknown with magic and the like, miles away with telekinesis, low multiverse level with reality warping

Keys: Orochi | Orochi X

Those're all that really need changing, though this is just a suggestion to save time, thank me later if you agree! Though I plan to keep my eyes peeled for speed feats now.
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I also updated my little time-saver for once I get approved to update the profile, unless the mods do it, then this is a little gift for them. :3

Don't copy paste it all, it's only for the lines that needed editing, if you look closer the other required lines are gone, just copy paste the lines over the former, updated info do be like that-
 
Someone did suggest I get a mod on the matter, so I'ma call for one.

@Colonel_Krukov

Alright, so with Warriors Orochi 4 out there, I decided I wanted to get some of Orochi and Orochi X's new feats in, 4 people agree with the tier feats, 1 person agrees with the speed feat.
 
Anyways just gonna say I'm not really knowledgeable on Warriors Orochi but just to toss my thoughts on some stuff.
Massively Hypersonic+ seems fine via Zeus for obvious reasons. Comes with being the literal god of thunder.
I think the rela-light speed stuff should be looked at more. Like, is there anything supporting the light manipulation stuff is actual light?

Universal rating seems fine as well.
 
The Low 2-C rating? I see, as for the 2-C rating. That'll probably need to be taken a closer look at, but you can go ahead and relook if you want.

As for rela-light? Yeah, do note that Kaguya summons mirrors that the light lasers are sometimes seen reflecting off of to hurt the enemies.
 
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No prob! It appears you agree with all the upgrades too!

See, I had to play Warriors Orochi 4, 3 times to get a Platinum trophy, it was PAIN-
 
Btw if you want a mod to come in here you should go to their profile and message them on their wall.
 
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Duplication (In a DLC for Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate, you are to face Orochi and duplications of him that he had created. He is also shown to be able to make duplicates of himself in the main game as well.)
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Yes to this.
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Memory Manipulation (Passive and physical. For starters, in Warriors Orochi 4, everyone who gazed upon Orochi immediately began to remember the events of the other games, also, after destroying Nezha, it was stated that Nezha lost some memories after being brought back and given cybernetic enhancements, which effected his personality, implying Orochi possibly erased those memories)
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No to this, just sounds like remembering something because you see something related to those memories to jog your memory. That stuff about Nezha could just as likely just be faulty resurrection if no clear link is created between Orochi and his lost memories.
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Possible Existence Erasure (He ended up killing Nezha with a Hakai esque type move, his entire physical form got destroyed into nothingness, they say he was slain, but Nezha does lose some of his memories before and after death, if memory also serves me right, I think his Susano'o had to also grab his soul or something to remake their body, I'll let you decide on this one.)
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Unless any actual evidence is given I'd say it's just the difference in strength being so great that a simple energy attack left no visible body parts left, thus requiring the whole grabbing Soul and completely remaking the body.
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Forcefield Creation (Everyone, you can decide if he should have this or not, in Warriors Orochi 4, getting a certain skill on the skill tree would make it so a purple barrier appears, said barrier makes you immune to physical damage for a period of time, or invulnerable rather, as it absorbs up to only so many blows before it vanishes, only mystic/god power-types can have the force-field, I didn't see any of the humans with this power.)
  • Transmutation (Turned his former weapon into a scythe.)
  • Fire Manipulation (It's LITERALLY in his moveset, one of his jumping attacks is throwing a fireball down that explodes upon touching anything.)
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Pretty sure theirs another more suitable ability then Transmutation, but I can't think of it so Limited Transmutation is fine. Other then that, it's all straightforward enough to be a-okay.
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Relativistic, if not Speed of Light (Kaguya, and a few of the other Mystic's are able to casually manipulate light in battle, Orochi can react to and likely attack before some of the attacks of literal light are able to hit, although, if being able to hit before light can get you, wouldn't that make you FTL? I'll leave it for you to decide.)
  • Massively Hypersonic+ (If the attacking before Kaguya's light can reach him feat does not count, then how about Zeus' lightning? Orochi should be capable of reacting to their lightning.)
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Light speed needs more proof then simple light looking attacks to prove it prove it's the speed of light, lighting seems fine though.

Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Low 2-C (Via scaling to Zeus, who has a staff that is stated to be capable of outputting lightning bolts that can destroy the universe. Zeus also somehow got his hands on Orochi's scythe and made the Ouroboros Bracelets, with that in place, he merged the Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors universes and with what Orochi expanded upon, which means he fused 2 universes and then some; attempting to recreate the world Orochi made with that alternate universe, the reason he didn't destroy it? It's obvious, he wanted to bring all the warriors together for him to fight, he just wanted a good fight himself.)
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I generally don't like scaling people to Universe level simple from a brief statement of having the power to destroy the universe, but I'm fine with giving Zeus and those who scale a Possibly 3-A rating I theirs no major reason it shouldn'tbe accepted. If remnants of Orochi's power was used to fuse two universe together then 2-C seems okay.
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
  • Possibly 2-C (Orochi X carries so much destructive power to the point to where it is also very unstable, so unstable that not even Hades could truly handle it all after absorbing it from the World Tree Yggdrasil, Orochi's power is also a key component to the Yggdrasil tree, Orochi X is able to create and activate a tree with enough power capable of absorbing the energy of all worlds and his destructive energy, said tree is capable of wiping out all worlds, this including the DW universe, the SW universe, Olympus, The Underworld, The Mystic Realm (Which you need to cross the boundaries of time and space to enter), and the alternate realities branching off the other stories in the other games. There is also this, and the fact that Zeus merged the Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors universes in attempt to recreate the world Orochi made.)
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More scans needed to prove each of these worlds are actual separate Space-Times, would still be 2-C from base Orochi.
 
Thank you for helping out.
 
Everything12 said:
Yes to this.

No to this, just sounds like remembering something because you see something related to those memories to jog your memory. That stuff about Nezha could just as likely just be faulty resurrection if no clear link is created between Orochi and his lost memories.

Unless any actual evidence is given I'd say it's just the difference in strength being so great that a simple energy attack left no visible body parts left, thus requiring the whole grabbing Soul and completely remaking the body.

Pretty sure theirs another more suitable ability then Transmutation, but I can't think of it so Limited Transmutation is fine. Other then that, it's all straightforward enough to be a-okay.

Light speed needs more proof then simple light looking attacks to prove it prove it's the speed of light, lighting seems fine though.


I generally don't like scaling people to Universe level simple from a brief statement of having the power to destroy the universe, but I'm fine with giving Zeus and those who scale a Possibly 3-A rating I theirs no major reason it shouldn'tbe accepted. If remnants of Orochi's power was used to fuse two universe together then 2-C seems okay.

More scans needed to prove each of these worlds are actual separate Space-Times, would still be 2-C from base Orochi.
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Alright so.

1. Kaguya ended up erasing everybody's memories in the true ending to Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate, sending everyone back to their homes, in 4, they ended up being brought back together, seeing Orochi made everybody remember the events of the other games, unless this counts for something else, then let me know.

2. You're right, it could also likely be a power difference over Nezha that destroyed his entire body, since his soul seemed to have survived the go.

3. Limited Transmutation's a go, then.

4. Massively Hypersonic+ then.

5. Then 2-C would seem to be the correct plan to go with, as I said Zeus 'somehow' got his hands on Orochi's scythe, which contains his power, Zeus then made the Ouroboros Bracelets with it to merge the two universes, as well as replicating what Orochi created over it afterwards. However, without the maintaining presence of the Serpent King, it was unstable and any powerful being forcing their way into the world would destroy it.

6. Might as well knock this off then, since the above statement would still make him 2-C regardless, although Loki still stated that the tree was going to destroy the alternative universe that he and the others stood in.
 
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Most of the powers seem fine. I'm skeptical on Existence Erasure though.

As for speed, I've only read the OP so if scans were posted later on, they'd be appreciated.

As for the tiering, I think, Low 2-C, likely 2-C can work.
 
Thank you for helping out.

What Planck69 and Everything12 have accepted can probably be applied then.
 
Memory Erasure seems fine for that, the rest of your points are just you agreeing to what I said.
 
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