OnePiece: Queen crt

[ZKillerz]

I apologize for not mentioning this in my previous post. However, I still believe that there are a few things that need to be adjusted regarding Queen's page

The purpose of this post is to prove that Queen's durability does indeed scale to Big Mom's attack power.

In the manga, Queen is shown tanking an attack from Big Mom without any visible damage.

The only time Big Mom is able to harm Queen is when she spins him around, building up kinetic energy and dealing moderate damage.

Notably, Big Mom needs to build up kinetic energy to deal any noticeable damage to Queen.

And even when Big Mom builds up kinetic energy Queen is still able to walk off the damage caused by her attacks. In fact, he appears more irritated than hurt by the assault

Given this evidence, it seems reasonable to conclude that Queen's durability scales to Big Mom's attack power. As she needs to take extra steps in order to damage him noticeably

Therefore, it would be appropriate to revise his profile to reflect this.

 

[ZKillerz]

Bump

 

[ZKillerz]

Bump

 

[Kachon123]

Don't bump a thread when there hasn't been at least 24 hours since the last post

 

[Kachon123]

Anyways, I agree, although this would only scale to Zoan Queen's durability and not his AP.

 

[Eseseso]

Seems good to me.

Maybe bring this up in the High 6-A downgrade thread.

 

[KingTempest]

Time for discussion rules

 

[DaReaperMan]

Time for discussion rules

LMFAO

KT is seething with anger. seething.

 

[KingTempest]

Yall think I'm playing bro

 

[ZKillerz]

Don't bump a thread when there hasn't been at least 24 hours since the last post

Ah I see
mb

 

[ZKillerz]

Anyways, I agree, although this would only scale to Zoan Queen's durability and not his AP.

at least It would scale zoan and hybrid queen's durability to big mom's lifting and striking strength

 

[Kachon123]

Why her Lifting Strength?

 

[ZKillerz]

Why her Lifting Strength?

According to VSBW's information, slamming something in a downwards motion can be considered a demonstration of "lifting strength" because it requires the use of muscles that are also involved in lifting movements.

When lifting an object, the muscles in our arms and upper body must contract and generate force to move the weight against gravity. Similarly, when slamming something downwards, we need to generate force to move the object towards the ground. This force is generated by the same muscles that are involved in lifting, such as the biceps, triceps, and shoulders.

Moreover, slamming something downwards may require more force than lifting it, as it involves accelerating the object towards the ground quickly. This means that the muscles must generate a greater amount of force to produce the necessary momentum to slam the object down.

Therefore, from a muscular standpoint, slamming something in a downwards motion can be seen as a display of lifting strength. It requires the same muscles and generates a similar amount of force as lifting, albeit in a different direction.

 

[ZKillerz]

Maybe bring this up in the High 6-A downgrade thread.

What's that?

 

[SlendVeny]

What's that?

The thread made by, I believe KT, downscales the God Tiers to Aokiji's 1 Petaton feat, and scales Scabbards to Casual Kaidou.

 

[SlendVeny]

I apologize for not mentioning this in my previous post. However, I still believe that there are a few things that need to be adjusted regarding Queen's page

The purpose of this post is to prove that Queen's durability does indeed scale to Big Mom's attack power.

In the manga, Queen is shown tanking an attack from Big Mom without any visible damage.

His nose is bleeding, and he seems to be in extreme stress.

The only time Big Mom is able to harm Queen is when she spins him around, building up kinetic energy and dealing moderate damage.

Notably, Big Mom needs to build up kinetic energy to deal any noticeable damage to Queen.

And even when Big Mom builds up kinetic energy Queen is still able to walk off the damage caused by her attacks. In fact, he appears more irritated than hurt by the assault

He's covered in marks.

 

[Kachon123]

He's covered in marks.

That's shading. We see them extending off of his body as well.

His nose is bleeding

It's not blood

 

[ZKillerz]

His nose is bleeding, and he seems to be in extreme stress.

He's covered in marks.

I think extreme stress is definetly an exaggeration but even if I do give you this his durability would still scale to big mom's ap

Its like kaido when he got hit by punk vice, he still scales to the attack even if it damaged him a little.

 

[SlendVeny]

That's shading. We see them extending off of his body as well.

Cross-hatching for bruising, shading, and dirt is certainly a choice.

It's not blood

What is it? Is he allergic to getting his ass beat?

 

[ZKillerz]

Cross-hatching for bruising, shading, and dirt is certainly a choice.

What is it? Is he allergic to getting his ass beat?

All I'm trying to say is that queen is capable of enduring Big mom's ap and coming out fine, meaning he should scale.

 

[Kachon123]

Cross-hatching for bruising, shading, and dirt is certainly a choice.

It'd dirt.

Same reason we don't scale Franky and Robin to Big Mom for these.

 

[SlendVeny]

It'd dirt.

Same reason we don't scale Franky and Robin to Big Mom for these.

Again, certainly a choice.

All I'm trying to say is that queen is capable of enduring Big mom's ap and coming out fine, meaning he should scale.

Isn't endurance different from Durability?

 

[Kachon123]

Again, certainly a choice.

What else would it be?

 

[SlendVeny]

What else would it be?

I meant on Oda's part.

 

[Kachon123]

Alright, so Queen took no damage from Base Big Mom's attacks and took minimal damage from an attack that required Kinetic Energy an buildup via swinging.

Seems simple enough. Queen's Zoan durability should scale, which makes sense since his Base Downscales from that value via Marco.

 

[ZKillerz]

Again, certainly a choice.

Isn't endurance different from Durability?

I believe you may have overlooked the part of my statement where I mentioned that Queen "came out fine".

If Queen was able to withstand an attack from Big Mom and only suffer a nosebleed (although I am not entirely certain that is the case), then it could be argued that he scales to her level of attack power. Would you not agree?

 

[SlendVeny]

I believe you may have overlooked the part of my statement where I mentioned that Queen "came out fine".

If Queen was able to withstand an attack from Big Mom and only suffer a nosebleed (although I am not entirely certain that is the case), then it could be argued that he scales to her level of attack power. Would you not agree?

Leaning towards agreeing.

 

[Eminiteable]

Since it hasn't already been mentioned yet, I'll do it.

This was already brought up in every other CRT attempting to upgrade Queen, Big Mom during udon not only was starving but was tired, she wouldn't scale to the her regular self.

Big Mom's regular physical strength is pretty fearless besides this encounter anyways.

 

[Kachon123]

Big Mom's regular physical strength is pretty fearless besides this encounter anyways.

Scales to Marco.

 

[Kachon123]

Big Mom during udon not only was starving but was tired, she wouldn't scale to the her regular self.

She was hungry. And why would this decrease her strength to a substantial amount?

 

[Eseseso]

Since it hasn't already been mentioned yet, I'll do it.

This was already brought up in every other CRT attempting to upgrade Queen, Big Mom during udon not only was starving but was tired, she wouldn't scale to the her regular self.

Big Mom's regular physical strength is pretty fearless besides this encounter anyways.

I mean Queen still cracked her skull tho,

 

[Eminiteable]

Scales to Marco.

She doesn't, she was using Prometheus.

She was hungry. And why would this decrease her strength to a substantial amount?

Go re-read the last threads covering it.

 

[Kachon123]

She doesn't, she was using Prometheus.

His flames negated Prometheus

 

[SlendVeny]

I mean Queen still cracked her skull tho,

Brachio Bomber > normal attacks

 

[Kachon123]

Big Mom being tired would affect her effectiveness not her strength, and her being hungry if anything would make her unleash more strength than normal.

 

[Eminiteable]

His flames negated Prometheus

Yeah which is why he was overpowered, but it was still BM + Homie that clashed initially.

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah which is why he was overpowered, but it was still BM + Homie that clashed initially.

Yeah, that's true.

Going off her profile she scales to Blackbeard in base.

 

[ZKillerz]

Since it hasn't already been mentioned yet, I'll do it.

This was already brought up in every other CRT attempting to upgrade Queen, Big Mom during udon not only was starving but was tired, she wouldn't scale to the her regular self.

Big Mom's regular physical strength is pretty fearless besides this encounter anyways.

I was not aware of this aspect of the situation. Could you please provide me with a reference to when this information is stated in the manga?

If my question has already been resolved in the past, then I apologize for bringing it up again.

 

[Kachon123]

Zoan Queen took no damage from a tired Big Mom, so he it's probably safe to say that he scales to around regular Base Big Mom level?

 

[Eminiteable]

Yeah, that's true.

Going off her profile she scales to Blackbeard in base.

See this is a different issue but it's not really relevant to this thread and it's something that covers all the Yonko profiles rn.

I was not aware of this aspect of the situation. Could you please provide me with a reference to when this information is stated in the manga?

If my question has already been resolved in the past, then I apologize for bringing it up again.

It was covered in the last threads, I can't post scans rn or even access the chapters but it was sometime just before she arrived in udon expressing how tired and hungry she was.