One-Punch Man: Psykorochi Upgrade

[Lightning_XXI]

Done.

Even though the AP gap between Psykorochi's value and baseline Moon level is 1.51583762x (we usually upscale at around 1.3x), Tatsumaki should be able to upscale considering how casually and easily she one-shot Psykorochi.

If we upscale from 1.3X and their difference is 1.5X, we shouldn't upscale, and making exceptions just because creates a terrible precendent

 

[Kachon123]

If we upscale from 1.3X and their difference is 1.5X, we shouldn't upscale, and making exceptions just because creates a terrible precendent

That's for normal upscaling, which is usually when a character is clearly more powerful than another character, but not necessarily by a whole bunch.

A weakened, near-death, fatigued Tatsumaki effortlessly one-shot Psykorochi. 1.5x should be enough for a possibly rating at the very least.

 

[Eseseso]

I support making Tatsumaki a full 5-C FRA

 

[Lightning_XXI]

That's for normal upscaling, which is usually when a character is clearly more powerful than another character, but not necessarily by a whole bunch.

A weakened, near-death, fatigued Tatsumaki effortlessly one-shot Psykorochi. 1.5x should be enough for a possibly rating at the very least.

That's still a push, I know your reasons and I'm not saying they are wrong, but if we have rules for upscaling then we must follow them or create a separate CRT to allow what we think it should be allowed

You say a few factors to help an upscaling beyond 1.3X, that makes this thread a precedent to others start arguing for 1.4X upscaling, 1.6X upscaling, basing on different scalings and situations, the rule for 1.3X was literally created to avoid such thing

My take ? Make Psykos High 6-A+, leave Tatsumaki at "At least High 6-A+, likely Higher" or something, and talk about factors changing the upscaling method on a CRT to allow its logic to be applied on every verse, instead of creating a precendent here and leave it for endless debate, it will be far more useful to us now and in the future

 

[LordTracer]

Actually, there is no definitive number for upscaling, 1.2x has just been adopted as an unofficial standard. It’s supposed to be a case-by-case thing.

 

[Cryo123]

Actually, there is no definitive number for upscaling, 1.2x has just been adopted as an unofficial standard. It’s supposed to be a case-by-case thing.

Seems like this should be fine then.

 

[Kachon123]

It’s supposed to be a case-by-case thing.

Yeah. 5-C Tatsumaki seems reasonable.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Actually, there is no definitive number for upscaling, 1.2x has just been adopted as an unofficial standard. It’s supposed to be a case-by-case thing.

Someone ping chariot
QUICKLY

 

[Eseseso]

I mean for Akame Ga Kill, Esdeath was upscaled to Baseline High 6-C+ (550 Gigatons) for effortless one-shotting someone who easily destroyed a mech who was in a form far above its 381.03 gigaton base, a 1.44x multiplier.

(Base Esdeath >> Tyrant Tatsumi >> Purge Shikoutazer >> Base Shikoutazer >> 381.03 gigatons)

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Actually, there is no definitive number for upscaling, 1.2x has just been adopted as an unofficial standard. It’s supposed to be a case-by-case thing.

Then Likely 5-C if u ask me, but overall neutral, any 5-C works

 

[LordTracer]

Here’s the exact quote of the standard, which you can find on this page.

It is possible for a character who is depicted as vastly superior to another in a statistic to be placed in a tier above the other, given that the other character is close to the the next tier. However, this ultimately needs to be decided through case-by-case analysis.

 

[Eseseso]

This very much feels like a case where 5-C upscaling seems appropriate.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

I mean for Akame Ga Kill, Esdeath was upscaled to Baseline High 6-C+ (550 Gigatons) for effortless one-shotting someone who easily destroyed a mech who was in a form far above its 381.03 gigaton base, a 1.44x multiplier.

(Base Esdeath >> Tyrant Tatsumi >> Purge Shikoutazer >> Base Shikoutazer >> 381.03 gigatons)

Here’s the exact quote of the standard, which you can find on this page.

Wait, what!? I thought the upscaling multiplier was x1.25!? I am pretty sure that somebody told me that the multiplier was x1.25... But then again, I think they only said that since I thought the multiplier was x1.3-1.4 or smth... Man, there really should be an official multipler for upscaling.

 

[LordTracer]

Wait, what!? I thought the upscaling multiplier was x1.25!? I am pretty sure that somebody told me that the multiplier was x1.25... But then again, I think they only said that since I thought the multiplier was x1.3-1.4 or smth... Man, there really should be an official multipler for upscaling.

Nobody could agree on an official multipler in the thread that decided the upscaling standards, so it’s just a case-by-case basis.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Thank you for telling, although, now... I am honestly curious if any of the Jojo folks have tried to upscale certain characters to 8-B via what you are talking about...

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Someone ping chariot
QUICKLY

please

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Do it yourself, Bucko! ... Btw, what is the current status of this CRT? Anything else to talk about or just waiting for more staff input?

 

[Kachon123]

1 staff member (@LordTracer) agrees to upscaling Tatsumaki to 5-C

 

[Qawsedf234]

I guess if the explanation is properly made Tornado can be 5-C.

 

[Kachon123]

I guess if the explanation is properly made Tornado can be 5-C.

Are you referring to if it were on her profile?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm saying something like "5-C (Much stronger than Psykos)" isn't a proper explanation for rating her as baseline in the next tier.

 

[LordTracer]

I'm saying something like "5-C (Much stronger than Psykos)" isn't a proper explanation for rating her as baseline in the next tier.

Would her current justification not work?

Even while wounded and not going all-out, she could clash with Fused Psykos and severely damage her. Once she was able to focus on the fight, she dissipated one of Psykos' beams and effortlessly overpowered her, twisting all of Z-City in the process and obliterating her on the cellular level.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Oh yeah, that's fine.

 

[Kachon123]

• Get Calc accepted by CGM
• Get Calc accepted in CRT
• Get the greenlight to add to pages
• Discuss and resolve all scaling, backscaling, and upscaling

I will start to add these.

Oh yeah, that's fine.

Can you unlock Tatsumaki's page?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Can you unlock Tatsumaki's page?

Its unlocked

 

[Kachon123]

Its unlocked

You can lock both Tatsumaki's page and this thread, as I've applied all the changes.

 

[LordTracer]

Actually, Fused Psykos should be listed as Multi-Continent level physically (Stronger than Orochi), Multi-Continent level+ with powers/beams/whatever

 

[Kachon123]

Actually, Fused Psykos should be listed as Multi-Continent level physically (Stronger than Orochi), Multi-Continent level+ with powers/beams/whatever

Can you handle that? I'm pretty tired and I wouldn't be able to do it until tomorrow morning.

 

[LordTracer]

Can you handle that? I'm pretty tired and I wouldn't be able to do it until tomorrow morning.

Yeah, I’ll do it.

 

[Kachon123]

Thanks

 

[LordTracer]

Now that that’s done, I’ll close the thread.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

@Qawsedf234 Can you open Saitama's page? His High 6-A needs to be updated to 5-C

 

[Qawsedf234]

It's unlocked

 

[LordTracer]

Just applied that.

 

[Kachon123]

It's unlocked

Added the changes. His page can be locked.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'll close this then.