One-Punch Man Downgrade (Removing High 7-A)

[Minos_the_Judge]

If I understand correctly, the current justification for High 7-A comes from Evil Eye (AKA Jagan). The source is this calculation.

One-Punch Man: Evil Eye and Tatsumaki Make a Storm

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But the calculation uses an extremely controversial statement. He believes that the buildings and the Evil Eye are at the same depth:

We have no hint of this. What prevents me from also asserting that the traffic light and the cars around it are also at its depth, and the buildings are much further away? What's stopping me from saying in principle that none of the objects scale Jagan's size?

Also, in previous scans, Jagan was MUCH less than 184 meters.

It is not visible that he changed his Form to some new combat one. And there is no evidence that its size can be scaled from buildings.

The calculation needs to be redone. However, I can say for sure that the result will be thousands of times lower.


Stuffs = FAT
Agree: Damage3245, Epiccheev, Therefir, ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn, Golden_Void, Dalesean027, CloverDragon03, CharlesZaGreat
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Damage3245]

How did I never notice that Evil Eye was being pixelscaled to be 184 meters tall...

You're right; this should absolutely be removed.

 

[Epiccheev]

Tatsumaki was also hiding her real size all along. Agree with the debunk, this is pretty blatant lol.

 

[Therefir]

Yeah this definitely inflates the calc, I would have just scaled that car at the left side of Evil Eye to measure the eye of the storm to prevent several scaling steps, the more scaling steps you have in your calc, the more inaccurate it becomes.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Wow, I didn't realize that's how that calculation scaled everything. That's pretty bad.

It should be redone.

 

[Arceus0x]

Wow, I didn't realize that's how that calculation scaled everything. That's pretty bad.

It should be redone.

Is there even a point to that?
Not only will the size get reduced by dozens of times, but the volume will be thousands of times lower and thus the weight as well and then the speed will also go from supersonic to basic wind speed which in the end will lead to a calc that is barley in tier 8

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Is there even a point to that?
Not only will the size get reduced by dozens of times, but the volume will be thousands of times lower and thus the weight as well and then the speed will also go from supersonic to basic wind speed which in the end will lead to a calc that is barley in tier 8

Well, it probably won't matter for the rest of the verse, but it is relevant to Evil Eye himself.

 

[Arceus0x]

Idk how to do RKE stuff so I'm not gonna bother. Could be decent maybe, but definitely at most around High 7-C or Low 7-B

 

[Emerald]

either way they are going back to 7-A

 

[Golden_Void]

Are these scans in chronological order? He doesn't actually get bigger; he's just normally smaller than a street light? If yes to all, I agree.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Are these scans in chronological order? He doesn't actually get bigger; he's just normally smaller than a street light? If yes to all, I agree.

yes

 

[Dalesean027]

Man I don't even remember evaluating this but man yeah that's not right at all given these other scans

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Shouldn't this be part of the calculation discussion? Since it involves calculation. I don't know.

 

[Damage3245]

Shouldn't this be part of the calculation discussion? Since it involves calculation. I don't know.

Technically, but the calculation discussion is basically over now. Three CGM's have rejected the existing calc.

So the discussion can now go on to how the profiles should be fixed.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Technically, but the calculation discussion is basically over now. Three CGM's have rejected the existing calc.

So the discussion can now go on to how the profiles should be fixed.

In the calculation discussion, CGMs' votes count, right? In contrast to normal CTRs that are in "Content Revision"

Unless the CGMs' votes count if it's too much to do with the calculation. I don't know.

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Killing High 7-A was easy.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Unless the CGMs' votes count if it's too much to do with the calculation. I don't know.

If the calculation is deemed invalid then the profiles would have to adjusted to a new rating anyways.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

I agree, this would bring the Monster Association dragon levels to 7-A again through this calculation. Did I understand correctly?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yeah fair enough, remove it

Killing High 7-A was easy.

This comes off as taunting though. Stop doing that. It's not cool

 

[Recon1511]

I agree, this would bring the Monster Association dragon levels to 7-A again through this calculation. Did I understand correctly?

Well I'd have to check the scaling chain but let's see...

Carnage Kabuto upscales to baseline 7-A (100 Megatons) by being far stronger physically than Vaccine Man who is 7-B+

With Carnage Mode he can go fight Darkshine for fifteen minutes straight before being killed so Darkshine is "At least 7-A"

Spiral Garou matched his strength and made him bleed, went on to become stronger after monsterizing and fought Bang and Bomb in the surface so they are 7-A as well

Vomited Fuhrer Ugly matched Darkshine's Superalloy Double Bazooka so he scales to Darkshine

There are probably a ton more people added to this scaling chain but that's it for now...

That Nichirin calc could be scaled to Atomic I guess

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Yeah fair enough, remove it

This comes off as taunting though. Stop doing that. It's not cool

No

 

[Damage3245]

Carnage Kabuto upscales to baseline 7-A (100 Megatons) by being far stronger physically than Vaccine Man who is 7-B+

Vaccine Man's physical strength is Unknown so being far stronger physically than Vaccine Man doesn't necessarily mean that Carnage Kabuto will be far stronger than his energy spheres.

 

[Recon1511]

Vaccine Man's physical strength is Unknown so being far stronger physically than Vaccine Man doesn't necessarily mean that Carnage Kabuto will be far stronger than his energy spheres.

He endured being in the epicenter of his own explosion, so yes, he does scale.

 

[Damage3245]

He endured being in the epicenter of his own explosion, so yes, he does scale.

I disagree with the assumption that he was at the epicenter of his own explosion. His explosions are ranged attacks... why would he detonate one against his own body?

It would still be irrelevant anyway as this has nothing to do with Vaccine Man's or Carnage Kabuto's physical strength.

 

[Epiccheev]

why would he detonate one against his own body?

He's a Gorilla spanking his own chest for dominance

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Already 4 staffs agree with this. It's time to update profiles.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I disagree with the assumption that he was at the epicenter of his own explosion. His explosions are ranged attacks... why would he detonate one against his own body?

Not damage ignoring what's blatantly on screen again

anyways back to not touching vsb again fr

 

[Damage3245]

@ZillertheBucko That's not proof he was in the epicenter of the explosion.

 

[Ped2018]

Ziller coming back just to quote Damage... goat activities

 

[CloverDragon03]

No

Telling you now that continuing to do so will get you reported

 

[Damage3245]

@Minos_the_Judge Yeah, there's no need to act like that on a CRT. Antagonizing others never ends well, and while you may not have meant it on your first comment it doesn't look good to respond with "No" after someone tells to knock it off.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Not damage ignoring what's blatantly on screen again

anyways back to not touching vsb again fr

Yeah this is blatantly showing Vaccine Man at the center of the explosion. I don’t see what the issue is

 

[Kachon123]

I disagree with the assumption that he was at the epicenter of his own explosion. His explosions are ranged attacks... why would he detonate one against his own body?

It would still be irrelevant anyway as this has nothing to do with Vaccine Man's or Carnage Kabuto's physical strength.

We already discussed this in a thread over a year ago. That scaling was accepted. If you want it removed make a new CRT. Let's not waste people's time.

 

[Damage3245]

We already discussed this in a thread over a year ago. That scaling was accepted. If you want it removed make a new CRT. Let's not waste people's time.

Fine, I'll save it for another thread and we can proceed with the scaling as it is currently.

 

[Golden_Void]

Not damage ignoring what's blatantly on screen again

anyways back to not touching vsb again fr

7-A stop sign lmao

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

@Minos_the_Judge Yeah, there's no need to act like that on a CRT. Antagonizing others never ends well, and while you may not have meant it on your first comment it doesn't look good to respond with "No" after someone tells to knock it off.

Ok

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Please unlock profiles and allow someone else to update them. I don't know how it works. Can only admins do this or can average members do it too?

I don't want the thread to become "the same thread that was accepted 3 years ago, but everyone forgot to use the accepted deletions"

 

[Qawsedf234]

Just link what profiles need to be unlocked and I can do it

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Just link what profiles need to be unlocked and I can do it

We need to first find out what they scale to now

 

[Qawsedf234]

It would be reverting to the previous 7-A scaling or whatever it was for overcoming the energy sphere.