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If its alright, ill start making the changes this afternoon.
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One Piece Upgrades
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Im about to start the revision, what should I do about people who loosely scale of one another like Zoro, Sanji, Law and base Luffy? Should I put them at Low 6-B or something?
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Wouldn't this only scale to Gear 4 Luffy, Doffy and anyone above?
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Also do they keep the Sub-Rel ratings? Wasn't it recalced at Mach 3000+? Or am I mistaken?
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Law could contend with Doffy. He fought someone who fought Sanji/Zoro(cant remember which one), they all sort of scale im just not sure to which degree.
And yes they get downgraded to MHS+ Dragon but he have another calc that puts the top tiers at Sub-rel+
And yes they get downgraded to MHS+ Dragon but he have another calc that puts the top tiers at Sub-rel+
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I would say Island to Small Country for Zoro and Sanji depending on how well they scale.
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I'm here now.
Regarding tiers:
Top Tiers: "At least 6-B, likely higher with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" unless the rayleigh feat is accepted. Unless you guys think they should be High 6-B?
High tiers: "6-B with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" Scaling to Doflamingo. This would also apply to Base Luffy and Trafalgar Law since they both withstood blows from Doflamingo.
Upper-Mid tiers: "At least Low 6-B with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" - Someone like Chinjao withstood a blow from Luffy and roughed him up a little bit, and characters like Lao G and High Executives scale to him. Sanji and Zoro both injured High Executives and the former was complimented by Doflamingo to have strong attacks.
Mid tiers and lower do not really scale, but we can discuss that.
I can apply most changes if these calculations have been accepted.
Regarding tiers:
Top Tiers: "At least 6-B, likely higher with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" unless the rayleigh feat is accepted. Unless you guys think they should be High 6-B?
High tiers: "6-B with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" Scaling to Doflamingo. This would also apply to Base Luffy and Trafalgar Law since they both withstood blows from Doflamingo.
Upper-Mid tiers: "At least Low 6-B with Massively Hypersonic+ speeds" - Someone like Chinjao withstood a blow from Luffy and roughed him up a little bit, and characters like Lao G and High Executives scale to him. Sanji and Zoro both injured High Executives and the former was complimented by Doflamingo to have strong attacks.
Mid tiers and lower do not really scale, but we can discuss that.
I can apply most changes if these calculations have been accepted.
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A Yonko could 100% one shot base luffy so it would make more sense for them to be high 6-B, even luffy with gear 2/3 was getting fodderized by Cracker who's fairly weaker then a Yonko
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@Frozone - 6-Bs can oneshot 6-Bs.
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Oh I didn't know that, thought they were pretty equal
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@Frozone It could depend on their durability and hax too somewhat
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Where do I begin putting them at Low 6-B and where do I start putting them at 6-B?
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Ace should be Low 6-B, Yonko Commanders are 6-B and guys like Roger, WB, Admirals, Dragon, Yonkos should be High 6-B.
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I'm back.
All Top tiers are "At least 6-B, likely Higher"
All High tiers are "6-B"
I'll personally deal with Upper-Mid tiers. Most of them will be Low 6-B and we'll have to discuss who doesn't get such tiering.
All Top tiers are "At least 6-B, likely Higher"
All High tiers are "6-B"
I'll personally deal with Upper-Mid tiers. Most of them will be Low 6-B and we'll have to discuss who doesn't get such tiering.
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Are the admirals pre time skip 6-B now?
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@CinCameron20 Since Gol D. Roger was initially placed at At Least High 6-C while other Top Tiers were just High 6-C can Roger be placed somewhat above them tierwise such as High 6-B?
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@Radical - If we decide to make Separate keys for pre and post time-skip, no. Otherwise, yes since WB scales to be comparable or superior to Kaido.
Should we make separate Keys? it would look like "Likely High 6-C pre|6-B Post".
Should we make separate Keys? it would look like "Likely High 6-C pre|6-B Post".
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Let me know when edits have been applied to all of the profiles affected and I will brush up older descriptions to avoid confusion.
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@Cin What feat puts them at High 6-C?
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@Radical - scaling to Whitebeard's casual feat pre time-skip since they tanked hits from him and could hurt him.
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Ok.
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@CinCameron20 You know, you could've easily just said no. You don't have to be rude and completely ignore me.
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@Sword - no need to make such presumptions... I'm talking to people in chat and here simultaneously since we're currently performing edits.
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@JBennett - we dropped that calculation and are just focusing on direct scaling the planet to find Surface Escape Velocity, which gives MHS+ characters and a 6-B feat.
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@Cin I have a question; is the entire scaling coming off this singular Fujitora feat? Is there another feat that comes even remotely close to this that would justify this?
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@David - the feat isn't exactly "Fujitora's" -- it focuses more on Doflamingo since his threads tanked several meteorites of similar size to one of them yielding a Country level AP.
But yes, it's all coming from this feat.
But yes, it's all coming from this feat.
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I think its finished.
These guys need their profiles unlocked.
Whitebeard, Luffy, Doffy, Sakazuki, Sanji, Zoro and Chinjao.
These guys need their profiles unlocked.
Whitebeard, Luffy, Doffy, Sakazuki, Sanji, Zoro and Chinjao.
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@Radical - i'm brushing dust off of descriptions and fixing a few things.
Can someone ask Ant or someone else to unlock the pages and then re-lock them when edits have been applied? I'll have to completely re-work Doflamingo's descriptions since he isn't scaling to anyone other than his own feat anymore.
Can someone ask Ant or someone else to unlock the pages and then re-lock them when edits have been applied? I'll have to completely re-work Doflamingo's descriptions since he isn't scaling to anyone other than his own feat anymore.
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I'm sorry but that poses an issue for me; is there literally no other feat that comes anywhere near this one? Has the possibility that it's an outlier been explored?
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@David - It has been discussed a lot.
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Well I believe it is necessary for it to be discussed again; I don't mean to be a stick in the mud but dissent is necessary to ensure the strength of an argument or idea. And this reasoning is faulty if I've ever seen one
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Very cool upgrades here.
Thanks CinCameron and Lina for very good calcs.^^
@David
I can understand you, now Fairy tail downgradet(rly dont understand that....) and One piece top and high tiers are now country lvl. But i think in Dragon crys(if they movie are canon) fairy tail become new upgrade.
Thanks CinCameron and Lina for very good calcs.^^
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I can understand you, now Fairy tail downgradet(rly dont understand that....) and One piece top and high tiers are now country lvl. But i think in Dragon crys(if they movie are canon) fairy tail become new upgrade.
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@David - explain to me how it is faulty.
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This isn't a matter of if FT is downgraded or not nor is it about potential upgrades from a movie that might or might not be canon. For me now it's a matter of fairness, I am simply applying the same amount of scrutiny to this as the FT calcs received (and in all honesty these upgrades have bothered me for a while)
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@David - tell me why you believe whatever reason to be faulty.
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