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One Piece: Problem with earthquake calcs

This isn't directly related to the two calcs in the OP, but it is related to earthquake calcs in One Piece so I hope it's okay to post here while we're waiting on more responses:

@KLOL506 You recommended here for the Whitebeard calculation that kinetic energy be used, just by plugging in the planet's mass, but it seems to me that wouldn't necessarily be accurate. If an earthquake was felt everywhere across a planet, it wouldn't require the mass of the entire planet would shake evenly - it would only require that the surface, or at least the crust, of the planet would be shaking. Peak ground velocity is how fast the ground at a particular site on the surface moves during shaking; not that the entire mass of the ground beneath that site moves at that same speed.
Hey, although I'm no longer a calc group member, I believe I can help out here.

If I've got this right, KLOL is claiming you can use KE and the mass of the planet to calculate the KE of an earthquake right? Well, if I'm correct then,

KLOL, is blatantly wrong here. You're right, it would not require the entire planets mass, that's inherently flawed. An earthquakes energy does not come from the whole earths mass, an earthquake only actually affects the earths crust and MAYBE the upper mantle, not the entire mass of the earth. Making the entire calculation wrong.
 
Also, can someone explain this calculation to me? I'm reading it and it seems to be wrong, but I don't want to misunderstand anything before I type out a debunk :) 🙏.
 
Okay, I'm a bit eager to type it out so I won't hesitate too much.

Richter Magnitude of Earthquake = (11.6868517619) + 6.399 + 1.66*log10((109270/110)((2π)/360)) = Magnitude 20.1425679

This doubles the results of the magnitude of the earthquake. 11.6 is the magnitude and then your math doubles it. 6.399 + 1.66*log10((715262.352474/110)((2π)/360)) is wrong, after some research I realise it comes from here. It is not meant to be applied after you already calculated ME from the tsunami, as that doubles the results.

I believe I'm correct here, but we'll see.

Edit: I double checked with agnaa and he's not sure what ME is as it's not on the earthquakes page.
 
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I would be willing to recalculate them :).
Thank you. That would be very appreciated. 🙏🙂
As mentioned there would be a Content Revision Thread to discuss replacements for ratings. This thread is more for the viability of the calcs.
Okay. What about Luffy's gigantic compression attack against Kaidou? 🙏
 
There currently isn't a calc for that; it wouldn't help anyway since nobody else in the verse scales to that yet.
Okay. Is somebody willing to properly calculate that as well please? 🙏
 
Okay, I'm a bit eager to type it out so I won't hesitate too much.

Richter Magnitude of Earthquake = (11.6868517619) + 6.399 + 1.66*log10((109270/110)((2π)/360)) = Magnitude 20.1425679

This doubles the results of the magnitude of the earthquake. 11.6 is the magnitude and then your math doubles it. 6.399 + 1.66*log10((715262.352474/110)((2π)/360)) is wrong, after some research I realise it comes from here. It is not meant to be applied after you already calculated ME from the tsunami, as that doubles the results.

I believe I'm correct here, but we'll see.

Edit: I double checked with agnaa and he's not sure what ME is as it's not on the earthquakes page.
That's literally in the OP. It gets Mw, AKA moment magnitude then converts it to Richter magnitude, and then converts it to Richter magnitude again. Problem is it assumes that firstly converted value is magnitude at distance.
Okay. Is somebody willing to properly calculate that as well please? 🙏
I don't know its current size values but if they're provided I can recalc and propose it being calculated with rotational KE which avoids lowballing feat for sake of simplicity (as in previous calculation).
 
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Huh, wild. I was talking about this exact thing of discord a bit ago.

Yeah earthquakes are well beyond the point of being too complex to derive a calculation for with pen and paper maths. It’s all computers and a massive amount of data collecting up a working equation.

I agree with the removal of these calcs.
 
I don't know its current size values but if they're provided I can recalc and propose it being calculated with rotational KE which avoids lowballing feat for sake of simplicity (as in previous calculation).
i think the replacement calculation wasn’t made yet for the new sizes so you’d have to make em from scratch, get that accepted and then be able to calc that feat
 
Who mfs turn into the second its time to make a primary One Piece feat incalculable
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So what do we currently need to do here? 🙏
 
Ax One Piece from the wiki because nothing about it can be scaled ever
It is the most popular comicbook of all time, and likely one of the most epic, socially relevant, and high quality stories of all time as well. 🙏
We are currently waiting to get this Accepted (we have 2 @Damage3245 and @DontTalkDT ), but you requested at least 4, but no other calc member seems interested, even after being pinged.

So yeah, we are just waiting for more.
Okay. We also need to get new accepted versions of the relevant calculations before we apply the statistic revisions.

Should I ping calc group members again? 🙏
 
Ax One Piece from the wiki because nothing about it can be scaled ever
Don't be dramatic.

Okay. We also need to get new accepted versions of the relevant calculations before we apply the statistic revisions.

Should I ping calc group members again? 🙏
We don't need that in order to proceed with revisions, but it'd be good for more calc group members to take a look at this.
 
It's alright Ant; I'll just keep non-relevant posts off of the thread because it's not helping.
 
Okay. We also need to get new accepted versions of the relevant calculations before we apply the statistic revisions.

Should I ping calc group members again? 🙏
We don't need that in order to proceed with revisions, but it'd be good for more calc group members to take a look at this.
@Executor_N0 @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @KLOL506 @Dark-Carioca @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer

Are any of you willing to help out here please? 🙏
 
Bleach I can understand, but why the others? Their stories mostly seem to be sympathetic and harmless. 🙏
 
We also need to get new accepted versions of the relevant calculations before we apply the statistic revisions.
They would scale to the currently accepted calculations, there's no point in locking this down until someone redoes the calculations
 
Not really, most Calc members just prefer not to touch Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, and DB.
Maybe so but I’ve scrolled the Calc Threads in the past 2 weeks and usually they have little to no CGM involvement or approval, in CRTs the way you have thread mods hopping in and aiding + evaluating things, CGMs aren’t that frequent (and Calc evals take ages)

There’s a dude with a non contentious Calc thread where everyone including 1 staff agreed but he has to keep bumping for days to weeks since no other staff looked at it and gave their second vote

I could be wrong ofc, this is solely from a limited personal observation
It's not the content of the stories, I believe. It's the large fandoms and frequent arguments over them.
Yeah this is unfortunately true, M3X used to be one of the best CGMs on here but goons tried to attack his calcs and pester him so much (esp for the light fang stuff) it made him ditch Naruto entirely :/

Which is sad because he was really good with Naruto & made meaningful contributions
 
For the amount of times that this calculation has been recalced and this argument about whitebeard earthquakes has been made which has been for the course of over 5+ years id say honestly Just Lock the verse till the series ends because at this point all lines of scaling are either currently axed or just overall cant be used.
 
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