One Piece - Luffy 2 New Hax

[Deceived3596]

I can't believe people are deadass arguing that Haki's is conceptual just because it's stated to be a "Foreign Concept"

Y'all need to pick up an english dictionary and understand what an idiom is.

When dude is saying "This Haki must be a foreign Concept" it isn't him saying that Haki is conceptual in general or that this specific Haki is conceptual, he's saying that this "Haki", which is in reference to a form of Haki which he's never seen before, and this is supported by the fact he knows what Armament Haki is. Isn't something he initially knew about, thus making it a "Foreign Concept" to him when he sees it in action.

It's just a turn of phrase to say he was seeing something that he previously didn't know about. That's it.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

my guy
he literally says "it's no different from BASIC CONCEPTS" That immidiately draws it down from abstract

What?

 

[Damage3245]

It's not concept manipulation.

That's pretty much all that needs to be said about it.

 

[SnookB]

This has to be the worst argument I've heard today. Zoro putting armament on his swords

Ah yes zoro has ryou because of the art style makes sense. The same thing that wasn't even fully established at wano existed for armament.

Ah yes, I'm definitely not caught up on one piece. Yeah enel and that little girl reading minds definitely the same thing as fujitora and luffy able to sense emotions. Makes so much sense and lemme guess future sight and mind rope is the exact same thing right.

Luffy can't use mantra and we KNOW he can predict 'intent' and sense emotions. That's identical to mantra, but it's haki.

It was stated to drain haki not ryou, where did you get this from

From the mango

 

[KingTempest]

It was stated to drain haki not ryou, where did you get this from

https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_955_07.jpg

From this point on I'm deleting all of your memes from your messages

This has to be the worst argument I've heard today. Zoro putting armament on his swords Ah yes zoro has ryou because of the art style makes sense. The same thing that wasn't even fully established at wano existed for armament.

Flows through his swords

 

[SnookB]

I dunno why we're arguing that anyway. The OP suggestions are unrelated-

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I dunno why we're arguing that anyway. The OP suggestions are unrelated-

Because you said haki is spiritual...

It's not conceptual-
It's an understanding of an ability literally called 'spiritual'. The term concept here clearly isn't referring to higher dimensional things.

 

[KingTempest]

Unreachability isn't shit, we already have

• Energy Projection (Can shoot out focused Haki in the shape of energy blasts[1])
• Forcefield Creation (Capable of creating actual forcefields that block attacks[46])

For it

Talk about subjective reality

 

[SnookB]

Talk about subjective reality

That I already agree with. But I don't know what category of subjective reality his ability falls under

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Reality warping would make more sense, as luffy is using his imagination and not just fiction

I don't fully know the differences tho

 

[Trax]

https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_955_07.jpg

From this point on I'm deleting all of your memes from your messages

that doesn't seem fair.

Flows through his swords

He was coating that sword with haki. Not emitting his haki outwards.

Luffy can't use mantra and we KNOW he can predict 'intent' and sense emotions. That's identical to mantra, but it's haki.

I never said he Can I just said, mantra is a specific type of observation haki.

From the mango

Forgot about those panels

 

[KingTempest]

He was coating that sword with haki. Not exalting his haki.

Did it flow through his sword yes or no

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Did it flow through his sword yes or no

Nah... It possessed his swords, it's different, which is why they have a will of there own

 

[Trax]

Nah... It possessed his swords, it's different, which is why the have a will of there own

I was going to say, no his swords needed some time to fully load all that haki it was given. But hey thats even better

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I was going to say, no his swords needed some time to fully load all that haki he was given. But hey thats even better

Omeg...

 

[Trax]

Omeg...

It's not my fault the swords got bad internet. You need to start thinking like a top G not like a npc.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Omeg...

It's not my fault the swords got bad internet.

Twit...?

You need to start thinking like a top G not like a npc.

true!!!!

 

[Ayewale]

Since the whole "unreachibility" thing has been thoroughly discussed, how about the second suggestion? It seems fairly solid from what I've read here. Maybe some sort of reality warping. Toon Force?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Toon Force?

Personally toon force doesn't make sense as it's not comedic affect for the show, but it's an actual ability in the show but it works similar to toon force so idk

 

[Trax]

Since the whole "unreachibility" thing has been thoroughly discussed, how about the second suggestion? It seems fairly solid from what I've read here. Maybe some sort of reality warping. Toon Force?

Toon force seems like a lowbal. Author level seems more fair.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Wait... This not from twitch?

Oh, you got it from twitter

 

[Trax]

Twit...?

...

 

[Bernkastelll]

Occam Razor says that we should use the simple answer, if they use the concept of flow they have Conceptual Manipulation

 

[Trax]

Personally toon force doesn't make sense as it's not comedic affect for the show, but it's an actual ability in the show but it works similar to toon force so idk

I thought toon force wasn't an ability. I thought that was a state of being

 

[Ayewale]

Personally toon force doesn't make sense as it's not comedic affect for the show, but it's an actual ability in the show but it works similar to toon force so idk

Toon Force is an 'actual ability' that all of it's users also possess. Just because it's comedic doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I thought toon force wasn't an ability. I thought that was a state of being

 

[Trax]

Occam Razor says that we should use the simple answer, if they use the concept of flow they have Conceptual Manipulation

He/She gets it.

 

[Trax]

Personally toon force doesn't make sense as it's not comedic affect for the show, but it's an actual ability in the show but it works similar to toon force so idk

I think you believe it's like gag scenes where it has absolutely no effect on a series. Well that's the funny part it does when a cartoon character or someone who abides by cartoon physics does it. Only weakness is that the user cannot kill someone.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I think you believe it's like gag scenes where it has absolutely no effect on a series.

Yee kinda

Toon Force is an 'actual ability' that all of it's users also possess. Just because it's comedic doesn't mean it doesn't count.

Hmm? The ability is known in the show of one piece, normal or other toon force just do it, it's not an actual ability in the show that people acknowledge kinda

Just use brain and understand

 

[Bernkastelll]

Hmm? The ability is known in the show of one piece, normal or other toon force just do it, it's not an actual ability in the show that people acknowledge kinda

it is acknowledged in gear 5

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

it is acknowledged in gear 5

Yee

 

[SnookB]

it is acknowledged in gear 5

It's either limited toon force or subjective reality imo

 

[Trax]

Wait... This not from twitch?

Oh, you got it from twitter

 

[Trax]

It's either limited toon force or subjective reality imo

Wdym by "limited toon force"

 

[SnookB]

Wdym by "limited toon force"

He's not breaking the laws of physics, warping reality, drawing tunels on walls and they're made real, etc, etc-- he's not doing entirely world breaking nonsense outside of just making sound effects and things appear for moments.
For now- I got a feeling gear 5 is gonna get nuttier the more we see it

Then again I'm not sure that warrants the 'limited' either. I'll let more knowledgeable members take a crack at that

 

[Trax]

He's not breaking the laws of physics, warping reality, drawing tunels on walls and they're made real, etc, etc-- he's not doing entirely world breaking nonsense outside of just making sound effects and things appear for moments.
For now- I got a feeling gear 5 is gonna get nuttier the more we see it

Then again I'm not sure that warrants the 'limited' either. I'll let more knowledgeable members take a crack at that

Ah so you mean hes not doing all of the toon forces abilities although he kinda is warping reality and breaking physics. I feel like the whole point of luffys df is freedom, therefore he will gain such freedom to the point where he isn't bound by anything. Which would probably make him boundless but ofc thats a very small chance of happening lol.

 

[ssgengar]

Can’t tell if some of these comments are serious or not

 

[ssgengar]

Ah so you mean hes not doing all of the toon forces abilities although he kinda is warping reality and breaking physics. I feel like the whole point of luffys df is freedom, therefore he will gain such freedom to the point where he isn't bound by anything. Which would probably make him boundless but ofc thats a very small chance of happening lol.

The nlf here is crazy

 

[Trax]

The nlf here is crazy

Just because of that I legitimately hope it happens just so I can look back at this with a smile.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The nlf here is crazy

It’s there own personal opinion in what the fruit could do in the future… nlf does not matter