One Piece: King Kong Gun

[GodlyCharmander]

Minor Wano Key Revisions
AY, AY, Chill! I know we are not supposed to touch Wano right now, but this is a minor thing that current will only be applied to four characters. (Damage, put the gun down), actually nevermind, I'm scared for my life rn
Jus' a joke, let's move on to the actual CRT

The King Kong Gun feat
About damn time, huh? So, my calc has been evaluated and seemingly accepted by Psychomaster, so let's talk about, y'know, how it scales.

First, the KKG is 210 Gigatons, this value does not scale for absolutely anyone! Everyone, and I mean, EVERYONE who faced this technique was submitted, or was already way above it on the scale (Kaido, in the Anime), so the value of 210 Gigatons is inconsequential. I believe that because of this, it should be fitting to add this value to Luffy's profile, putting his strongest technique at Large Island Level.

Outlier isn't exactly a viable option here, the Gear 4th, and the King Kong Gun are much stronger than they are depicted in the profile, the thing is we just didn't have a correct value for it. However, there is one issue to be resolved based on how we treat the King Kong Gun, which is downscaling.
We currently treat KKG as 4 times more powerful than Gear Third, as KKG is basically Gear Fourth's version of this technique, so if we went downscale, Gear Third would be 55 Gigatons, or Island Level.

This would scale to characters like Fujitora, who was able to fend off Gear Third's attacks, Zoro via powerscaling, and a few others that don't come to mind at the moment.

Conclusion

• King Kong Gun should be added to Luffy's profile as Large Island Level.
• possibly, we should downscale Gear 3rd to 55 Gigatons, and scaled for the respective profiles.

 

[KingTempest]

Following

We do not treat KKG as 4x G3rd, we treat KKG as "At least 4x G3rd", which means we cannot backscale from it.

The calc is fine to add to the profile, but I heavily disagree with anyone/anything scaling to it except maybe the god tiers, who already drastically scale to a higher value

 

[Kachon123]

I agree with the OP other than G3 downscaling

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

This seems fine to me

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Following

We do not treat KKG as 4x G3rd, we treat KKG as "At least 4x G3rd", which means we cannot backscale from it.

The calc is fine to add to the profile, but I heavily disagree with anyone/anything scaling to it except maybe the god tiers, who already drastically scale to a higher value

I explicitly said no one scales to it directly, so yeah, I agree with that
I will remove the 4x downscaling.

 

[KingTempest]

I explicitly said no one scales to it directly, so yeah, I agree with that

Oh my bad

I will remove the 4x downscaling.

Gotcha

 

[GodlyCharmander]

This seems fine to me

I really wouldn't mind a second opinion on the calc, just to make sure nothing is wrong with the method... It's fine as it is, just thought that I'd ask

 

[Nierre]

Following

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I absolutely agree, it exists in a vacuum where nothing scales to it, has only appeared once in canon so it has no other showings to contradict it, that one showing is where the High 6-C feat comes from so outlier isn't a good argument to use against it, and the god tiers already scale to stuff that's far higher than it, so it's not like it's the highest calc in the verse.

All in all, there should be no contention (key word being "should") unless the calc is wrong.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

sounds good to me tbh.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Think I agree

 

[Nierre]

IIRC Damage said he had problems with the calc itself(?) so let's see what the issue is before doing anything ig

 

[GodlyCharmander]

IIRC

What does that mean?

 

[Nierre]

What does that mean?

if i recall correctly

 

[GodlyCharmander]

if i recall correctly

You forgot to tell me what it was, what does it mean?!

 

[StrawHatArslan]

You forgot to tell me what it was, what does it mean?!

it literally means "if i recall correctly"

IIRC = if i recall correctly

 

[GodlyCharmander]

it literally means "if i recall correctly"

IIRC = if i recall correctly

Yes, t-




... sigh, that's the joke, I-


I will wait for Damage here, they'll probably have some opposing arguments for me, probably about the free fall timeframe as opposed to the very slow paced Anime (which brings it lower into High 6-C)

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Yes, t-




... sigh, that's the joke, I-


I will wait for Damage here, they'll probably have some opposing arguments for me, probably about the free fall timeframe as opposed to the very slow paced Anime (which brings it lower into High 6-C)

 

[Nierre]

LOL

 

[SnookB]

Seems good enough. It exists in a void where it's WAY below the God tiers, but still over the mid-tiers. Doesn't effect the mid-tiers since nobody backscales, and doesn't effect the God tiers for scaling over 260 times BELOW them.
The only issue I see is the fact the G3 downscale. Doffy may then have to scale to G3 for blocking it, which changes a few characters in the Dressrosa scaling chain as well. Law, Zoro, Fujitora, are the only ones that come to mind for now. but those guys always scaled over the rest of the Dressrosa mid- tiers anyway. Other than that, it seems fine.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

You meant to say "King Jong-un"

 

[GroundX1]

following

 

[Damage3245]

IIRC Damage said he had problems with the calc itself(?) so let's see what the issue is before doing anything ig

I don't have time for it right now and this doesn't affect anyone outside of Luffy himself so I'll just sign off on it and might be able to look over it in greater detail at a later date.

 

[Arceus0x]

Nice, i agree

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Oh boy

Seems like pretty much everyone agrees, and with three Staffs having no opposition to it. Can we add it?

 

[StrawHatArslan]

3 staff basically agree, so you can I think.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I believe this would be something like:

"Attack Potency: 7-B, 7-A with Gear 2nd Buso, and Gear 3rd, High 7-A with Gear: Boundman, High 6-C with King Kong Gun"

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Seems about right.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I believe this would be something like:

"Attack Potency: 7-B, 7-A with Gear 2nd Buso, and Gear 3rd, High 7-A with Gear: Boundman, High 6-C with King Kong Gun"

This obviously applies to all keys, as Wanokuri isn't really revised.
Can someone apply the revision? I am currently on my phone, and it's very unreliable for editing profiles. Plus, Luffy's profile is locked.

 

[GroundX1]

I believe this would be something like:

"Attack Potency: 7-B, 7-A with Gear 2nd Buso, and Gear 3rd, High 7-A with Gear: Boundman, High 6-C with King Kong Gun"

wouldn't it be better to put 6-C with stronger attacks and High 6-C with king Kong gun?

 

[Damage3245]

wouldn't it be better to put 6-C with stronger attacks and High 6-C with king Kong gun?

Why?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

wouldn't it be better to put 6-C with stronger attacks and High 6-C with king Kong gun?

KKG was the "stronger attack", tankman also was included in the same league as KKG for some reason, but nope.


I still need Luffy's profile to be unlocked so I can edit it.

Also, lil' inconsistent ratings innit bruh ?

 

[Damage3245]

Also, lil' inconsistent ratings innit bruh ?

Fixed it.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

So just apply this

 

[GodlyCharmander]

So just apply this

Damage isn't exactly an advocate for this feat, they're more of a neutral, which I imagine is the reason why they didn't apply it there and then.

Could you ask the All Purpose Thread to open the profile? I sort of forgot where it was

 

[GroundX1]

enjoy and edit the OP page adding the feat

 

[Damage3245]

Damage isn't exactly an advocate for this feat, they're more of a neutral, which I imagine is the reason why they didn't apply it there and then.

Could you ask the All Purpose Thread to open the profile? I sort of forgot where it was

I've unlocked Luffy's profile.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I've unlocked Luffy's profile.

Edited. If there's nothing wrong with it, the profile can be locked, and this can be closed

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Edited. If there's nothing wrong with it, the profile can be locked, and this can be closed

Calc should be added to the verse page too to avoid confusion

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Edited. If there's nothing wrong with it, the profile can be locked, and this can be closed

Also, I fixed the justification for the calc "one-shot doflamingo" isnt the reason why KKG is Large Island, its the feat he did.