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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

MonkeyOfLife said:
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Truth, chopper or Nami would have Pikachu (Sanji can also make sense)
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Was this pannel after robins devil form? Just now seeing she has a devil fit on
 
Imaginym said:
Unrelatedly, but since neither has profiles, I guess I'll ask here as a preliminary of sorts:

Who wins?

Lassoo, which is Mr. 2's gun that ate the Mutt Mutt Fruit, Model: Dachshund.

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OR

Funkfreed, Spandam's sword that ate the Elephant Elephant Fruit.

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Neither of their owners are involved, just the aforementioned gun & sword. Which of those two wins? (SBA applied where applicable/reasonable.)



They don't have VSBW profiles, but maybe I should make a Fun & Games Thread for this?
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Funkfreed. It's an elephant with a blade on it vs a dog that shoots baseballs.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
then why does one piece only advertise characters who are the most popular? (Look at even every fortnite collab)

Crossovers happens when something is popular to being with and want to increase their franchise by reaching new audiences... Using not so popular/favorable characters is quite unwise (Like Pikachu)
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L. Miku did it.
 
SlendVeny said:
Funkfreed. It's an elephant with a blade on it vs a dog that shoots baseballs.
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Don't those baseballs explode, though? That's range, & it has experience thanks to being used by Mr. 4.

Also, what if being originally a gun means its body is partially metal? (FWIW, Funkfreed could be argued as being metallic rather than fleshy for similar reasons.)

Also, the elephant IS the blade; It's a sword that ate the Elephant Elephant Fruit, not an Elephant that ate the Sword Sword Fruit.

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2nd image is dubiously canon AFAIK (It's from One Piece: Unlimited Adventure), but I think it helps illustrate the case for the shape(s) Funkfreed can/will take. (I'm okay with disregarding it, though.)
 
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Imaginym said:
Don't those baseballs explode, though? That's range, & it has experience thanks to being used by Mr. 4.
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Shit, you're right. Funkfreed should be pretty tanky tho.
Imaginym said:
Also, what if being originally a gun means its body is partially metal? (FWIW, Funkfreed could be argued as being metallic rather than fleshy for similar reasons.)
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Partially, yes.
Imaginym said:
Also, the elephant IS the blade; It's a sword that ate the Elephant Elephant Fruit, not an Elephant that ate the Sword Sword Fruit.
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I am aware.
 
SlendVeny said:
Shit, you're right. Funkfreed should be pretty tanky tho.
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....Come to think of it, that's true.

FWIW, Funkfreed sort of has an encounter with Franky.

"Robin had also been freed from her shackles but was shaken by the arrival of the Buster Call,[10] so Spandam feigned a normal attack at Franky while secretly having Funkfreed target Robin instead. However, Franky stopped the blade in time and threatened Funkfreed with a point-blank Weapons Left. The elephant quickly surrendered and turned into his full-elephant form, whereupon Franky grabbed him by the trunk and tossed him atop Spandam, knocking them both unconscious.[5]"
[10]: One Piece Manga and Anime — Vol. 43–44 Chapters 419–421 and Episodes 301–304.
[5]: One Piece Manga and Anime — Vol. 44 Chapter 423 (p. 7-11) and Episode 306, Funkfreed is unleashed on Robin, only for Franky to hold back his charge, threaten him into surrender, and use him as a club against his own master.

....Considering how dismissive OP can be of animals in general, since it fodderizes even the strongest of them (Also, being a DF user doesn't give any kind of inherent power boost.), there's a part of me that wonders if Funkfreed getting knocked out (& not dying.) from being tossed onto atop of Spandam by Franky & only falling unconscious rather than dying is more of a joke than a feat.

Any thoughts, all?

Lassoo....


"Lassoo was ultimately defeated when Usopp tricked Mr. 4 into slugging Miss Merry Christmas with his 4-ton bat. While Mr. 4 was shocked at what had just happened, Usopp took advantage of this time to fire a hammer at Mr. 4's gut using Chopper's horns as a slingshot. Mr. 4 then flew into Lassoo and hit a stone structure thus knocking them both out. Lasso coughed up one last exploding baseball that completely incapacitated the Mr. 4 team. Lassoo was then arrested by the Marines along with the rest of Baroque Works when Crocodile was defeated.[5]"

[5]: One Piece Manga and Anime — Vol. 23 Chapter 211 (p. 14) and Episode 127, Lassoo is apprehended by the Marines after being defeated.

So at best, Lassoo could be framed as taking a hit from a hammer fired by Alabasta Usopp (King of the Snipers, or soon to be, no?) using Chopper's horns as a slingshot, & after taking that hit which knocked it & Mr. 4 (Who may've cushioned the blow.) into a stone pillar, Lassoo was still conscious enough to cough up another timed explosive baseball.

It was apparently later arrested with Baroque Works, so Lassoo survived this, despite being knocked out.
(& obviously its attacks could harm Usopp & Chopper.)


So do these cases for their scaling affect the argument?
SlendVeny said:
Partially, yes.

I am aware.
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Apologies for any bother. I hope it doesn't displease folks that I find this debate fun.

Man, I wish these had profiles so I could make a proper match for it, lol.

Do you think a Fun & Games Thread for it would be acceptable, even if the match wouldn't be valid without profiles to put it on?
 
Antvasima said:
Monkey, perhaps you should try to tone down your confrontational tone a bit. We should strive for a friendly atmosphere here after all. 🙏
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... Bro I did nothing wrong, I have no problem accepting other people and their boundaries but I won't ever change myself and stop speaking the truth when others were coming at me and I never did to begin with

I was trying my best to be friendly the entire time and then explained myself to someone to come to an understanding, so if you can perhaps mention where I was being confrontational I cannot tone it down whenever I wasn't from what I recall, I speak very blunt and straightforward so if people have issues with me and how I am, it would be best to just not interact with me. Everyone is different at the end of the day and I can respect others and their ways but if others can't do that back to me then the issue isn't coming from me

Sorry if I may have said anything wrong to someone tho
 
Okay, no problem, and no offence intended, but I have the same issue of being chronically honest, but I still have to make an effort to be polite to others. 🙏❤️
 
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Small Uta Changes

Currently, Uta's profile lists her as having FTL reactions, for this feat, however she isn't merely reacting here, but actively combating the Straw Hats at this speed, so it should be FTL combat speed in Uta World. Uta is comparable to Luffy when both are children as evidenced by her...
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Uta vs Quanxi

They start in base form 10 meters apart, both with prior knowledge, and Uta is willing to do anything to survive/win, speed equal, battle takes place in an open field Uta: 6 (@That_moron2, @Bimbitesthedust, @Arkansalter2, @MannyQ361, @GodEarh206, @Ms.Luzifer) Quanxi: 2 (@Anonymous_Learner...
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Just thought of a crazy theory: Vice Admiral Doll is the daughter of Rayleigh and Shakky

1. She looks a good bit like a short-haired version of Roger-Era Shakky

2. Would explain her incredible power given how strong prime Rayleigh and Shakky are.

3. Very skilled kick-fighter like Shakky
 
That_moron2 said:
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Uta vs Quanxi

They start in base form 10 meters apart, both with prior knowledge, and Uta is willing to do anything to survive/win, speed equal, battle takes place in an open field Uta: 6 (@That_moron2, @Bimbitesthedust, @Arkansalter2, @MannyQ361, @GodEarh206, @Ms.Luzifer) Quanxi: 2 (@Anonymous_Learner...
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Vote plz
 
I don't think there's anything blocking the Egghead revisions right now. We're waiting on profiles for the 5 Elders to be completed.
 
That shit was disrespectful af, Kaido really hated that Monkey 😭
Maybe is instinct of Dragon 🐉 kicked in some memories about a Monkey 🐒 bullying his ancestors in the past 😂
 
Kanjuro only created pets & animals though
The theory is implying that Imu dictates the events & stuff that happened within the story.
The irl pics of Imu sitting at Oda's drawing board also kinda imply theres somethin' a lil more fishy
 
Well, Imu's devil fruit so far seems connected to being able to nearly instantly convert the forces of good into ones loyal to himself/herself through the principles of a Go board, with Luffy/Nika presumably being able to counter it in the opposite direction, but being too unskilled at Go to do so efficiently on his own.

Basically, Imu enslaves and corrupts people into becoming ruthless monsters, much like real world politicians do through their systematic propaganda-machinery. 🙏
 
Something that you might enjoy. 🙏🙂❤️

 
Prime Garp stomps and Kaido stomps admirals... Loki might be decent matchup but no profile and not much information gg

Actually the gorosei could kinda be decent (not really tho) but no profile
 
Some information about the approximated number of One Piece readers and viewers. 🙏

"Short version up front (with defensible ranges and hard-source “floors”):

#1 Manga (all formats incl. piracy): ~80–150 million unique readers (floor ≈ 50+ million).
– Floor comes from paid circulation (516.6M copies in circulation ÷ 10–20 vols/reader ≈ 26–52M paying readers) + conservative add-ons for magazine-only and free-official readers; piracy plausibly adds 20–70% more unique readers.

#2 Anime (TV series), unique viewers to date (legal + piracy): ~250–500 million (very rough).
– On Netflix alone the anime logged ~479M hours in 2H-2023; depending on hours-per-viewer that’s already tens of millions of unique accounts just for that half-year, before Crunchyroll/Hulu/TV broadcasts and long-tail piracy.

#3 Live-action Netflix series, unique viewers to date (legal + piracy): ~90–120 million (today), with a hard floor of 71.6M official Netflix “views” in 2H-2023 alone; week-1 was 18.5M views. Add subsequent periods + off-platform piracy for the range.

How I got there (transparent, source-based assumptions)

Manga: building a conservative base, then layering piracy

1. Paying readers (print + paid digital): The last official global figure is 516.566M copies in circulation (print + digital) as of Aug-2022. A long-running series like One Piece has fans who buy multiple volumes; assuming 10–20 volumes per paying reader implies ~26–52M unique payers. (Even 12–16 vols/reader still yields ~32–43M.)

2. Magazine-only readers (Japan): One Piece has run in Weekly Shōnen Jump since 1997; the magazine’s circulation has stayed in the ~1–3M per-issue band in recent decades (peaking earlier). Conservatively, that suggests ~10–25M people in Japan who have read OP in the magazine at some point without necessarily buying volumes. (Context via WSJ circulation history.)

3. Free official digital: MANGA Plus reports “MAU over 6.5M” (June 2024) and ~28M app downloads since 2019. Even if only a fraction regularly read OP, this still contributes several million unique readers over time.

4. Piracy uplift (order-of-magnitude only): The anti-piracy groups report large scale usage:

– ABJ says the top 10 English piracy sites alone account for ~$0.8B per month in “free readings.”

– CODA/PwC estimates ¥1.95–2.20T in losses across Japanese content in 2022, ¥395–831B of that from publishing.

Taken as signal of scale, not 1:1 unit conversions, it’s reasonable that piracy adds ~20–70% more unique readers beyond the legal base (many pirates also buy, so we avoid >1:1). That’s how the legal base (~40–80M) lands at ~80–150M total unique manga readers.

Anime & live-action: triangulating from Netflix + platform scale

Live-action (Netflix): Official Netflix engagement reports list 71.6M “views” and 541.9M hours in 2H-2023 (it was the #1 title on Netflix for that half). Week-1 alone was 18.5M views. With continued availability into 2024/2025 and inevitable off-platform piracy, a ~90–120M cumulative unique viewer range is a defensible present-day estimate; 71.6M remains the hard floor.

Anime (1999–present):

• Netflix: The One Piece anime was the top anime on Netflix in 2H-2023 with ~479M hours watched—already implying ~40–80M unique Netflix accounts in that half alone under reasonable hours-per-viewer assumptions.

• Beyond Netflix: 26 years of Fuji TV broadcast + long-running global distribution (and today’s 15M+ paying Crunchyroll subs / 120M+ registered users ecosystem) point to a worldwide audience far larger than any one platform’s number. After deduping across years and services and adding piracy exposure (per ABJ/CODA’s scale), a ~250–500M unique viewer range is a cautious global estimate.

Important caveats

No single registry of “unique people” exists. All numbers past the “floors” involve explicit assumptions (e.g., average vols/reader; hours per anime viewer; overlap between legal and piracy).

“Copies in circulation” ≠ sell-through; it’s the industry’s standard cumulative figure (print + digital).

Netflix “views” are Netflix’s metric (hours watched ÷ runtime); they’re useful, but not headcount of individuals."
 
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