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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Bro I'm exhausted/tired, annoyed and chill all at the same time and it's not even going away... What is happening 🦧

Maybe need to just meditate, too much stuff happening all at the same time making me use 300% of my brain more than I usually use it
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Cool stuff.

Luffy would main Infernape tho
Luffy mainly fights with his hands and his strongest attacks involve his hands (i.e bajrang gun and white star gun)
Infernape mainly fights with both his hands and feet
Feet > hands since legs are 4x stronger than arms iirc
Therefore Infernape roflstomps
 
Luffy mainly fights with his hands and his strongest attacks involve his hands (i.e bajrang gun and white star gun)
Infernape mainly fights with both his hands and feet
Feet > hands since legs are 4x stronger than arms iirc
Therefore Infernape roflstomps
lol
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🦧 I don't think that really makes sense 😴 maybe for you 🙈

Luffy goated with the kicks tho
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Luffy using this move = he's not holding back... Bro pushed back kizaru without even using his devil fruit... Lol it's actually insane the more I think about it 🌚
 
anyway I made a tier list a week or two ago, anyone who's not MoL tell me what you think (Bepo is a replacement for Joyboy since he's not on the list)
Pretty good overall since I'd only have minor changes. I'd personally rate Kuzan higher than any of the current 3 Admirals (or at least a spot next to Kizaru). I'd also rate some of the current gen top tiers over the old gen top tiers (for example Dragon and Shanks over Garp and Roger). Sabo's definitely below Sanji since there's like nothing he can do to beat him and he likely doesn't take a single physical stat or even Haki. Katakuri somehow snuck his way in the tier list. Franky > Judge.
 
Pretty good overall since I'd only have minor changes. I'd personally rate Kuzan higher than any of the current 3 Admirals (or at least a spot next to Kizaru). I'd also rate some of the current gen top tiers over the old gen top tiers (for example Dragon and Shanks over Garp and Roger). Sabo's definitely below Sanji since there's like nothing he can do to beat him and he likely doesn't take a single physical stat or even Haki. Katakuri somehow snuck his way in the tier list. Franky > Judge.
Dragon is unknown but Shanks hasn't done enough for me to put him above Garp and Roger right now honestly. He doesn't even seem to be capable of stalemating Primebeard which Roger could consistently do.
Sabo's placement is admittedly pure headcanon based off what I think he'll do in the future and how strong I personally feel he is right now, you can disregard it if you want.
Also what did Kata do to you?
 
Dragon is unknown but Shanks hasn't done enough for me to put him above Garp and Roger right now honestly. He doesn't even seem to be capable of stalemating Primebeard which Roger could consistently do.
Dragon is Garp's son and is currently in his prime. I'd be disappointed if he's not at least as strong as Garp was.

As for Shanks,
Portrayal.

He has very strong Haki on par with if not above Roger due to his being the benchmark that Dorry and Brogy used to compare to Joyboy even though they've met Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban in the past.

At 15 years of age he replicated an advanced conqueror's attack from Roger while Gaban and Rayleigh were incapable of doing the same.

He's constantly hyped up as a genius and a prodigy and Roger's successor so it would make no sense if a current day Shanks who is in his prime was not bare minimum Roger level.

Also what did Kata do
Nothing... which is why he shouldn't be that high
 
Dragon is Garp's son and is currently in his prime. I'd be disappointed if he's not at least as strong as Garp was.

As for Shanks,



Nothing... which is why he shouldn't be that high
Eh I'd chalk that up to them just knowing Shanks and fighting alongside him more than they did with Roger and his gang. Pretty sure they only met once anyway and it likely wasn't in a very serious setting.

Shanks was only really treated as his successor when he had the fruit in his possession and both arms, after that he seemed to have given up on surpassing Roger and becoming the next PK. He even says he bet his arm on Luffy becoming the PK and that he believes Luffy is very similar to him as a kid.
Also, nobody hypes Shanks like they do with Roger, Whitebeard and Garp. Whitebeard for example was consistently called the king of the seas and closest to the One Piece (even with Shanks being an active pirate), Big Mom says she could have defeated "even" Whitebeard with the Giants on her side (so even a peer of Shanks couldn't defeat him and thought of him as different from the other Yonko), and Sengoku and Buggy consistently hyped him.
 
Funny meme but it's pretty sad how people take it seriously when this is the reality
It's mostly people who don't really think too well about how the situation would go down if they actually tried to get Ginny back.
There's no way Shamrock or Garling or whoever you believe kidnapped her would just let them waltz in there, take her back, leave and go for ice cream afterwards. That's not happening realistically.
Most likely thing is they try some shit and immediately get jumped by Admirals or the Holy Knights for raiding Mariejois and all end up dead.
Dragon's army was way too small at that time to try nonsense like that, they had to just grit their teeth and move on.
 
Whitebeard for example was consistently called the king of the seas and closest to the One Piece (even with Shanks being an active pirate)
old wb was stated to be the strongest man in the pre timeskip era, shanks is stated to be equal to him... Shanks easily stopped akainu, and stated to have stopped kaido as well, you have both those two above shanks and oldbeard 🐵
 
Eh I'd chalk that up to them just knowing Shanks and fighting alongside him more than they did with Roger and his gang. Pretty sure they only met once anyway and it likely wasn't in a very serious setting.
They returned from Little Garden less than a year ago, so they spent just as much time with Roger as they did with Shanks.
Shanks was only really treated as his successor when he had the fruit in his possession and both arms, after that he seemed to have given up on surpassing Roger and becoming the next PK. He even says he bet his arm on Luffy becoming the PK and that he believes Luffy is very similar to him as a kid.
He was treated as Roger's successor the moment he was given the Straw Hat. He was even called the Child of Destiny. Even if Shanks didn't go for the One Piece immediately, he did not stop growing stronger, hence why he was fully prepared to take it post-Wano after Luffy awakened as Nika.
Also, nobody hypes Shanks like they do with Roger, Whitebeard and Garp. Whitebeard for example was consistently called the king of the seas and closest to the One Piece (even with Shanks being an active pirate), Big Mom says she could have defeated "even" Whitebeard with the Giants on her side (so even a peer of Shanks couldn't defeat him and thought of him as different from the other Yonko), and Sengoku and Buggy consistently hyped him.
Whitebeard was a living legend. You really can't use his legacy to say he's superior to Shanks. Same with Roger.
 
old wb was stated to be the strongest man in the pre timeskip era, shanks is stated to be equal to him... Shanks easily stopped akainu, and stated to have stopped kaido as well, you have both those two above shanks and oldbeard 🐵
"I can't remain the strongest forever!!"
Also the latter two are minor clashes lol
 
They returned from Little Garden less than a year ago, so they spent just as much time with Roger as they did with Shanks.

He was treated as Roger's successor the moment he was given the Straw Hat. He was even called the Child of Destiny. Even if Shanks didn't go for the One Piece immediately, he did not stop growing stronger, hence why he was fully prepared to take it post-Wano after Luffy awakened as Nika.

Whitebeard was a living legend. You really can't use his legacy to say he's superior to Shanks. Same with Roger.
And then he gave the Straw Hat and fruit to Luffy, which is my point
If he continued going down that path, then yes, he'd be above Roger easily since he was being groomed into the next Joyboy.
But now that's Luffy’s fate.
So while Shanks CAN still be equal to or above Roger, it's just something I doubt given that he already passed the torch to another man.
 
And then he gave the Straw Hat and fruit to Luffy, which is my point
I think you missed mine. The fact that Shanks continued to get stronger, regardless of the fact of if he wanted to be the child of destiny or not, and still reached the level he needed to be to get it done by the time Wano ended, would place him on that level, if not above. He's a prodigy and a genius.
 
get that ass banned wario hater

anyway I made a tier list a week or two ago, anyone who's not MoL tell me what you think (Bepo is a replacement for Joyboy since he's not on the list)
Why is doffy above the two guys who canonically are atronger than him? Both Cracker and Jack are stated by yonko to be above him.
What did Wobert Gucci do to you? He has better showings than king and queen combined.
Also, if BB is that high, Law should be up a few places, unless you actually think Zoro or Sanji have better chances at beating Luffy than Law had beating Teach
 
Idk how you interpret the fight, but, for me, it feels like Law got jumped even after Teach unleashed his darkness and only Bepo was was close enough to help him (also the only one with actual feats to be able to help or feats in general but thats a minor thing). Dont know how to post scans but in 1081 we see Teach bruised and with blood on his face and and Burgess also looks damaged. I dont think law had much chances of winning, but for me it isn't because he was overpowering him by that much, he just had more capable fighters
(also why Shiryu over Zoro? He got dunked by old Garp)
 
Idk how you interpret the fight, but, for me, it feels like Law got jumped even after Teach unleashed his darkness and only Bepo was was close enough to help him (also the only one with actual feats to be able to help or feats in general but thats a minor thing). Dont know how to post scans but in 1081 we see Teach bruised and with blood on his face and and Burgess also looks damaged. I dont think law had much chances of winning, but for me it isn't because he was overpowering him by that much, he just had more capable fighters
(also why Shiryu over Zoro? He got dunked by old Garp)
Was Zoro > King before he got ACoC? No? Why would he be above someone he'll fight later on then?
Why is doffy above the two guys who canonically are atronger than him? Both Cracker and Jack are stated by yonko to be above him.
What did Wobert Gucci do to you? He has better showings than king and queen combined.
Also, if BB is that high, Law should be up a few places, unless you actually think Zoro or Sanji have better chances at beating Luffy than Law had beating Teach
Cracker was sent after Luffy with Brulee and the Seducing Woods helping him.
Never saw when Jack was put above Doffy
Law got mid diffed, you think Sanji and Zoro can't push Luffy or Teach to that diff?
 
Was Zoro > King before he got ACoC? No? Why would he be above someone he'll fight later on then?

Cracker was sent after Luffy with Brulee and the Seducing Woods helping him.
Never saw when Jack was put above Doffy
Law got mid diffed, you think Sanji and Zoro can't push Luffy or Teach to that diff? he has no actual feats to put him that high right now
I mean, I guess but like his best showing are getting his ass beat by top tiers so like

Been a while since I read WCI, but didn't luffy call his haki tough? Wasn't he able to fight Luffy for hours? Like, Luffy needed more help to beat him than he needed against doffy (jack is also below cracker if you look)

Alone? I think they would at most be on G4 level, they would put more of a fight than Lucci, but not by that much and luffy would not need to call in Backup like teach did
 
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