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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

SlendVeny said:
If we were only considering power, wouldn't Rocks + Kong be the winners?
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My comments wasn't really that serious but... No? Unless your saying Sengoku < Kong in strength (via higher rank) but garp is literally stated to have the strongest fist/punch

Rocks also doesn't have much that would put him above the strength of Roger... Maybe possibly above whitebeard for being Rogers strongest adversary? But still wouldn't be put on top (As kaido was with rocks and said Roger was the one on top still)

And in terms of haki we know rogers has the strongest based on kaido also

so abilities wouldn't matter much, Both Garp and Roger have the strongest haki combined and strength that 100% support it
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
My comments wasn't really that serious but... No? Unless your saying Sengoku < Kong in strength (via higher rank) but garp is literally stated to have the strongest fist/punch
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Y'all are the ones who were trying to convince me Kong was a god-tier a while back.
MonkeyOfLife said:
Rocks also doesn't have much that would put him above the strength of Roger... Maybe possibly above whitebeard for being Rogers strongest adversary? But still wouldn't be put on top (As kaido was with rocks and said Roger was the one top still)
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I mean, I GUESS God Valley Garp and Roger were most likely weaker than their prime. But the placement doesn't mean anything, unless you think Oden and Rocks were on the same level. Hell, Oden's higher than Shanks on there. Garp isn't even on there.
 
SlendVeny said:
I mean, I GUESS God Valley Garp and Roger were most likely weaker than their prime. But the placement doesn't mean anything, unless you think Oden and Rocks were on the same level. Hell, Oden's higher than Shanks on there. Garp isn't even on there.
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what...? I wasn't talking about the luffy's ceiling thing, those are just the strongest of people capable of fighting him

I'm talking about kaido hyping up Roger saying conquered the world without any df abilities and never said anything about rocks

Tho if it was a top 5 list it would go from left to right... Like the manga does

Roger, Whitebeard, Rocks, Shanks and then Oden last
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
what...? I wasn't talking about the luffy's ceiling thing, those are just the strongest of people capable of fighting him

I'm talking about kaido hyping up Roger saying conquered the world without any df abilities and never said anything about rocks
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That's because Rocks didn't conquer the world and find the One Piece, thus becoming Pirate King. Because of God Valley.
 
SlendVeny said:
Really? Can you drop the scans?
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Also pirate king isn't about conquering anything but being the most free... Tho idk if kaido would know that 🤔 but kaido is definitely talking about being the strongest
 
SlendVeny said:
Rocks being stronger doesn't mean he would go "You can't conquer the world like Rocks, even though Rocks didn't conquer the world because he was defeated in God Valley!"
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conquering the world here would mean being above everyone else in strength/battle... Similar way blackbeard thinks

Kaido says abilities won't make you the strongest and then says Roger didn't have fruit powers become only haki can transcend all

He's both confirming rogers superiority with everyone else and hypes up how only haki can transcend all

he also at the same time showed it to luffy at the same time by using his haki and overpowering him
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
conquering the world here would mean being above everyone else in strength/battle... Similar way blackbeard thinks

Kaido says abilities won't make you the strongest and then says Roger didn't have fruit powers become only haki can transcend all

He's both confirming rogers superiority with everyone else and hypes up how only haki can transcend all

he also at the same time showed it to luffy at the same time by using his haki and overpowering him
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Chinjao pretty much said the same thing. In order to conquer the seas you need to be stronger than every other conqueror.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
conquering the world here would mean being above everyone else in strength/battle... Similar way blackbeard thinks

Kaido says abilities won't make you the strongest and then says Roger didn't have fruit powers become only haki can transcend all

He's both confirming rogers superiority with everyone else and hypes up how only haki can transcend all

he also at the same time showed it to luffy at the same time by using his haki and overpowering him
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I suppose that's a reasonable interpretation, especially considering the Blackbeard comparison, since Rocks and Blackbeard are clearly meant to be parallels. Rocks probably had a DF keeping him on top, so it probably wasn't raw power setting him that high up.

The only reason I'm not fully onboard is Sengoku's statement where he's putting Rocks as Roger's strongest rival. Sengoku would, of course, know how strong Garp was, and was placed in the "Marines that can capture me," list by Roger. Plus, it'd put him above Primebeard, considered to be the one man who could run a 1v1 with Roger and consistently keep up. I wonder if Kaidou or Sengoku had a better grasp on Rocks' power, considering they would both be pretty close to people who had fought Rocks directly.
 
There is NO WAY 🙉🙉🙉 I was like f it, let's try reading this manga, it seems interesting... I read and read... And once something crazy happens... BOOM it's the last recent available chapter 🙉🙉

My heart, head and soul.... Is currently getting shattered... I read all of that to find out the secret just for it all to completely be destroyed in seconds 😶‍🌫️ wtf
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Ain't no way I'm ever going to read an ongoing manga ever again 🙉, it somehow feels lonely and like something is missing... Like bro...
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Its like an anime that has an insane secret and for no reason in the middle of watching the episode... it's just ends...

I have to be more careful what I invest in 🙉 this some bs

I've also now realized... Wtf was I reading... 😅 yee my manga journey in getting into manga... Have not been it 🙉
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
There is NO WAY 🙉🙉🙉 I was like f it, let's try reading this manga, it seems interesting... I read and read... And once something crazy happens... BOOM it's the last recent available chapter 🙉🙉

My heart, head and soul.... Is currently getting shattered... I read all of that to find out the secret just for it all to completely be destroyed in seconds 😶‍🌫️ wtf
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Ain't no way I'm ever going to read an ongoing manga ever again 🙉, it somehow feels lonely and like something is missing... Like bro...
monkey-orangutan.gif


Its like an anime that has an insane secret and for no reason in the middle of watching the episode... it's just ends...

I have to be more careful what I invest in 🙉 this some bs

I've also now realized... Wtf was I reading... 😅 yee my manga journey in getting into manga... Have not been it 🙉
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wait... The manga has already ended... It's the English that's currently ongoing 🙉 idk if I should feel hope or not, not much changed from the initial problem 🐵
 
SlendVeny said:
What manga are you talking about?
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👁️... Knew you out of everyone would ask this of me 🙉

Uhh... A kinda wierd one... If I just tell you it it will be too weird, so I have to first explain 😶‍🌫️

A very good detective dies... Anda nother boy at the same time dies as well... The detective becomes the boy, from his analysis he's soul got into the boy's body because of that

He wakes up and sees 3 sisters in the hospital... 👁️, and thinks and thinks and then after the detective realized the accident that was meant to kill the boy wasn't an accident... So now bro has to go along with the sisters to find out who the killer is... All 3 love the boy very much... And they think he forgot what happened.... And.... It has ecchi in it's genre ✋🐵🤚 bye
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
👁️... Knew you out of everyone would ask this of me 🙉

Uhh... A kinda wierd one... If I just tell you it it will be too weird, so I have to first explain 😶‍🌫️

A very good detective dies... Anda nother boy at the same time dies as well... The detective becomes the boy, from his analysis he's soul got into the boy's body because of that

He wakes up and sees 3 sisters in the hospital... 👁️, and thinks and thinks and then after the detective realized the accident that was meant to kill the boy wasn't an accident... So now bro has to go along with the sisters to find out who the killer is... All 3 love the boy very much... And they think he forgot what happened.... And.... It has ecchi in it's genre ✋🐵🤚 bye
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Eh, I've read weirder, I'll put it in my watchlist.
 
NazRyo said:
if it's about strength and endurance, i would choose shirohige over roger
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well endurance would go for Roger because of haki stuff

And strength... Well I've already said why Roger would have more strength

Same with this statement shows the superiority of Roger against whitebeard
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← 白ひげの体に残る傷は、ロジャーとの激戦の証であり、忘れ得ぬ思い出･･･。
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← The scars on Whitebeard's body are proof of the fierce battle with Roger, a memory he will never forget....
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DaMonkeMan said:
Saw a comment on Worstgen saying Kizaru would have a hard time putting down Oven and I immediately thought of this page
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Would be sick af if Kizaru where to continuously shoot lasers out of him while accelerating towards someone at the same time 💥

The lasers would kinda act like a heat piercing shockwaves from his acceleration

Kinda Like this but it’s continuous while traveling

Basically an upgraded sparkling valkyrie
 
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