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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Marco vs sanji
Sanji's pretty much got this one via speed and durability.
Lucci vs king
King wins via durability, unless Lucci can stall him out long enough with that ridiculous recovery.
Yamato vs law
Law wins via DF hax.
Jack vs atlas
Jack easily wins via Haki and Zoan powers, but that bomb might make it a draw.
Joyboy vs one piece
Is this Joy Boy vs everyone else in One Piece? If so, he loses.
 
Sanji's pretty much got this one via speed and durability.
Agree
King wins via durability, unless Lucci can stall him out long enough with that ridiculous recovery.
Agree
Law wins via DF hax.
Agree
Jack easily wins via Haki and Zoan powers, but that bomb might make it a draw.
Agree
Is this Joy Boy vs everyone else in One Piece? If so, he loses.
Joyboy solo one piece 🥱
 
 
Sanji's pretty much got this one via speed and durability.

King wins via durability, unless Lucci can stall him out long enough with that ridiculous recovery.

Law wins via DF hax.

Jack easily wins via Haki and Zoan powers, but that bomb might make it a draw.

Is this Joy Boy vs everyone else in One Piece? If so, he loses.
Ngl I got lucci cause the recovery and yamato cause of haki plus higher physicals.
 
Didn't he literally sense elders haki and was continuously sensing them from very far away with zoro?

He's obs Haki seem quite decent... As the longer distance your able to sense... The more potent your obs Haki is
 
Marco vs sanji
Lucci vs king
Yamato vs law
Jack vs atlas
Joyboy vs one piece
Marco vs Sanji - As with Ace and Sabo, Marco is a particularly weird matchup for him because he can negate flames with his blue phoenix flames. Sanji with his flames nerfed probably can't beat Marco.
Lucci vs King - King mid diff and that's being generous, Lucci was HEAVILY injured by Leopard Hunt, and I doubt that's an attack that King couldn't take nor dish out. Add that to the fact that he can't hurt Flame on King (since, y'know, G4+CoA/ACoA Luffy and ACoA Zoro couldn't even do that), and King is possibly more versatile, and it's over quick.
Yamato vs Law - Tough, both have good AP, and both are quick fighters as well. Yamato definitely has better Haki, obviously, but Law is a bit more versatile and tactical. If Yamato lands her best attacks, Law is just injured, but he could likely withstand a good amount of attacks from her given his performance against Big Mom and Kaido. Meanwhile, if Law lands one of his best attacks on Yamato, she's likely finished right then and there. And even if she's not, she will be soon, because getting your organs shocked and busted by a large and very potent shockwave isn't exactly easy to recover from.
Jack vs Atlas - Lol
 
Zoro was likely considerably stronger when he fought Lucci than when he fought King, and Lucci was able to endure attacks from Nika Luffy, so I think that Lucci seems considerably more dangerous than King. 🙏
 
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Zoro was likely considerably stronger when he fought Lucci than when he fought King
Because of the lack of injuries? Honestly, Zoro was trying significantly harder against King, considering he dropped Robert with a regular Buso move and wasn't in mortal danger at any point, plus he was still healthy enough to fight Nusjuro after the battle.
 
Because of a lack of injuries and continuous training and growth. 🙏
I would agree with that were it not for the fact that the training and growth is not enough to quantify a massive difference unless further evidence shows up.

Furthermore, even if he was injured, King had that guy on the ropes and pulling out some of his best moves. Zoro was fighting an opponent that was perpetually recovering energy and didn't even seem to get serious until the end.
 
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I would agree with that, but the training and growth is not enough to quantify a massive difference unless further evidence shows up.
What about Lucci's awakened form being able to withstand multiple hits from awakened Gear 5 Luffy?
 
Yeah, Lucci downscales from G5 iirc
And he should likely downscale from Zoro as well, seeing how Huhuva Hunt dropped him from 95% to like, 10%.
 
0%, he just recovered from unconsciousness.
0% is literal death, wouldn't go that far. He passed out for a few seconds but after that he was still talking and standing for a bit, so he was definitely defeated for good there, but not exactly dead or anything. Could argue that he will be, since he was bleeding out heavily, though.
 
Because of the lack of injuries? Honestly, Zoro was trying significantly harder against King, considering he dropped Robert with a regular Buso move and wasn't in mortal danger at any point, plus he was still healthy enough to fight Nusjuro after the battle.
It wasn't regular buso, we can see very large sparks, plus he was already unleashing Enma earlier
 
1. He literally did.
2. It's almost like it drains energy.
3. He wasn't even using Busoshoku hardening at the time.
4. He didn't unleash Enma against Nusjuro, who was literally trying to kill him and his crew.
5. Argument from incredulity.
Alright, then how on Earth did he beat Lucci if Lucci was doing just fine with Enma Unleashed Zoro. And don't say he was holding back before cause he was literally unleashing Enma
 
Alright, then how on Earth did he beat Lucci if Lucci was doing just fine with Enma Unleashed Zoro. And don't say he was holding back before cause he was literally unleashing Enma
Lucci has the power to make people transform into stronger forms and attack casually, then oneshot him with weaker attacks.

But for real, Lucci was not competing with him, the only panel we see is of him growling and moving backwards while Zoro swings his sword at him and moves forward.

Also, could've been using Tekkai for some of the hits.
 
Lucci has the power to make people transform into stronger forms and attack casually, then oneshot him with weaker attacks.

But for real, Lucci was not competing with him, the only panel we see is of him growling and moving backwards while Zoro swings his sword at him and moves forward.

Also, could've been using Tekkai for some of the hits.
Parrying his hits with no damage sounds pretty competitive to me. Also that last part is headcanon.
 
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