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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

But now that it's with mihawk it has to be true even tho it's a title within the verse and even outside and inside the verse only talks about swords skill for that title
his profile literally says this ''He's the strongest swordsman in the world in both name and actuality'' and on top of that ''he's currently waiting for a worthy foe who surpasses his old rival Shanks'' meaning he himself is stronger then him.
 
And Current Shanks is losing to mihawk due to the databook stating that shanks used to be as strong as him implying that he isnt any longer, know we know why mihawk didnt wanna fight shanks at marineford and why they dont fight anymore, and also why they are refered to as old rivals due to shanks not being as strong as him and not being on his level anymore and why hes waiting for a worthy foe who surpasses shanks, So current shanks is losing to mihawk if they fight.

im not going any further with this debate it's as clear as day it's silly that i even needed to.
 
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And tbf I get why he dislikes her because Oda used her as a way to show his unnatural love for Oden and not much else but still
is that a bad thing? oden is one of the most underrated characters and he reminds me of luffy and his bs is currently the most enjoyable in all of op i loved the way oda kept bringing up my goat who would've been a major top tier if he was still alive.
 
is that a bad thing? oden is one of the most underrated characters and he reminds me of luffy and his bs is currently the most enjoyable in all of op i loved the way oda kept bringing up my goat who would've been a major top tier if he was still alive.
Yeah he was very strong and what not but kind of dumb as hell in terms of leadership and planning
 
is that a bad thing? oden is one of the most underrated characters and he reminds me of luffy and his bs is currently the most enjoyable in all of op i loved the way oda kept bringing up my goat who would've been a major top tier if he was still alive.
It's probably that we already had a lot of characters in Wano with a positive opinion of Oden so adding Yamato might feel not neccesary.
 
It's probably that we already had a lot of characters in Wano with a positive opinion of Oden so adding Yamato might feel not neccesary.
ye i get that but thats normal since the whole country thought of him as a joke whole time he was protecting them and they found out last second when he was dying
and also the thing in op that a man only dies whe hes forgotten so im glad that oda did it that way for oden since he undoubtedly deserves all the praise/regocnition

yamato was inspired by him bcs of his freedom same way with how koby was with luffy. i can see your reasoning tho
 
No dude you literally said you hate her lol I'm not saying it just cause of the Lucci thing (though that was indeed stupid)
you may not hate her anymore, but you used to be OPENLY express your hate towards her lol. We all remember that
No I definitely hate her, I'm just asking how my hate for her relates to my scaling between characters, because the context of him saying that was because apparently my takes are garbage surrounding her.
 
What is the Lucci thing
It was about who could win between Lucci and Yamato
I argued Yamato wins because she down scales from Hybrid Kaido with ACoC and Armament while Lucci downscale from G5 with basic CoA/no CoA (not sure which it's a bit confusing especially considering the end of their scuffle)
Kachon said Lucci wins cause he scales to G5 with CoA/no CoA and Yamato isn't that impressive (don't ask me why I'm just the messenger)
 
No I definitely hate her, I'm just asking how my hate for her relates to my scaling between characters, because the context of him saying that was because my takes are garbage surrounding her.
I think you also said she was below Sanji and Queen so.. Speaks for itself dunnit?
 
Lucci gonna be quaking in his boots at the end of this cover arc, when Yamato goes "I am now as strong as Kaidou and so is Momonosuke."
 
I think you also said she was below Sanji and Queen so.. Speaks for itself dunnit?
This is the same site that had Base Yamato > Base Kaidou, Zoan Yamato > Zoan Kaidou, and Hybrid Yamato > Hybrid Kaidou until like last week. In my book Sanji being above Yamato and Queen being somewhat relative to her are far better takes than that. Might just be me though lmao
 
This is the same site that had Base Yamato > Base Kaidou, Zoan Yamato > Zoan Kaidou, and Hybrid Yamato > Hybrid Kaidou until like last week. In my book Sanji being above Yamato and Queen being somewhat relative to her are far better takes than that. Might just be me though lmao
We have them even at best on the profile.
 
Because I changed it in a CRT like last week. Literally every time I proposed to change it before then I got jumped by like 10 Yamato glazers.
Misread your post. That said, I still don't think Yamato is anywhere near as overhyped as a lot of other characters.
 
This is unironically what we rated Base Yamato

Should be comparable to or stronger than Base Kaidou due to their Zoan Forms matching each other

I had to fight tooth and nail to add the "comparable" part btw. There's never been a single One Piece profile in this wiki that was more wanked and overhyped than Yamato's was.
 
It was about who could win between Lucci and Yamato
I argued Yamato wins because she down scales from Hybrid Kaido with ACoC and Armament while Lucci downscale from G5 with basic CoA/no CoA (not sure which it's a bit confusing especially considering the end of their scuffle)
Kachon said Lucci wins cause he scales to G5 with CoA/no CoA and Yamato isn't that impressive (don't ask me why I'm just the messenger)
I don't think Luffyn gives her all. There's a scene where he lets him guard down against Lucci, so she's underestimating him.
 
Kachon said Lucci wins cause he scales to G5 with CoA/no CoA and Yamato isn't that impressive (don't ask me why I'm just the messenger)
You're doing a pretty damn terrible job at it then

I never said Lucci scales to Gear 5 Luffy's AP 😭🙏 I said he was able to dodge an attack from Gear 5 Luffy, which is a better speed feat than Yamato's best speed feat (matching Kaidou's Thunder Bagua speed) since Gear 2 Luffy was able to blitz a much faster Kaidou's Thunder Bagua
 
You're doing a pretty damn terrible job at it then

I never said Lucci scales to Gear 5 Luffy's AP 😭🙏 I said he was able to dodge an attack from Gear 5 Luffy, which is a better speed feat than Yamato's best speed feat (matching Kaidou's Thunder Bagua speed) since Gear 2 Luffy was able to blitz a much faster Kaidou's Thunder Bagua
He dodged an attack once but got hit thrice once while he used a speed amp
So it's just a downscale
 
This is unironically what we rated Base Yamato



I had to fight tooth and nail to add the "comparable" part btw. There's never been a single One Piece profile in this wiki that was more wanked and overhyped than Yamato's was.
That was admittedly atrocious. You're correct.
 
He dodged an attack once but got hit thrice once while he used a speed amp
So it's just a downscale
He dodged the attack, was able to raise his fist to block Luffy's attack, destroyed one of Luffy's attacks, and then was hit after he already stopped moving.

Like I said during our earlier debate, obviously Lucci downscales from Gear 5 Luffy's speed, but that's still above Yamato's best feat.
 
He dodged the attack, was able to raise his fist to block Luffy's attack, destroyed one of Luffy's attacks, and then was hit after he already stopped moving.

Like I said during our earlier debate, obviously Lucci downscales from Gear 5 Luffy's speed, but that's still above Yamato's best feat.
Luffy's attack wasn't actually Luffy though. He just spat rocks at him. Idk why you're gassing him busting a rock that's below Daz Bones' daisy blade thingamajig he used in Alabasta
 
Luffy's attack wasn't actually Luffy though. He just spat rocks at him. Idk why you're gassing him busting a rock that's below Daz Bones' daisy blade thingamajig he used in Alabasta
I'm not gassing the rock spit from Luffy what 😭 you said it blitzed him and I literally just said that it didn't

I'm talking about Luffy's bite attack.
 
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