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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

On the topic of Sanji deflecting Kizaru's laser beam, I would like to mention that Kizaru's lasers were able to clash with Snakeman Luffy... just saying...
 
Hard disagree. Even if we don't count Yamato, who's technically a former Beast Pirate, we still have Mr. Jackpot, Queen, and Jack, who, if working together, could likely pressure Kaidou for a bit. Adding in the Tobiroppo, X Drake is pretty good, and WW might be as well. Then add Hawkins, with his strange hax. The Orochi Oniwabanshu, who joined the Beast Pirates, have a guy who could briefly stall Zoro, meaning... well, that guy doesn't literally die if he gets hit, he just gets his bones shattered. They also have Fukurokuju, a guy slightly weaker than Raizo, and he can probably assist. Dropping in Apoo and an army of Numbers and fodders(most of whom would get floored by Hao bursts), Kaidou can't last forever. However, the main threat is King. Kaidou can annihilate any of these guys except him and Vinsmoke-amped Queen, who put up a good fight, even thought he would beat them down once he went all-out. Kaidou would basically be whooping their asses, but then more guys would show up and jump him, and some of them would actually do damage. All this while Kaidou is being forced to expend stamina and Haki to keep it up, and the Ancient Zoans have time to recover. It's a really close match, but it's, pun not intended, a numbers game.
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Big Mom
Yeah, probably.
Absolutely disagree.
 
Hard disagree. Even if we don't count Yamato, who's technically a former Beast Pirate, we still have Mr. Jackpot, Queen, and Jack, who, if working together, could likely pressure Kaidou for a bit. Adding in the Tobiroppo, X Drake is pretty good, and WW might be as well. Then add Hawkins, with his strange hax. The Orochi Oniwabanshu, who joined the Beast Pirates, have a guy who could briefly stall Zoro, meaning... well, that guy doesn't literally die if he gets hit, he just gets his bones shattered. They also have Fukurokuju, a guy slightly weaker than Raizo, and he can probably assist. Dropping in Apoo and an army of Numbers and fodders(most of whom would get floored by Hao bursts), Kaidou can't last forever. However, the main threat is King. Kaidou can annihilate any of these guys except him and Vinsmoke-amped Queen, who put up a good fight, even thought he would beat them down once he went all-out. Kaidou would basically be whooping their asses, but then more guys would show up and jump him, and some of them would actually do damage. All this while Kaidou is being forced to expend stamina and Haki to keep it up, and the Ancient Zoans have time to recover. It's a really close match, but it's, pun not intended, a numbers game.

Yeah, probably.

Absolutely disagree.
I suppose you can argue that King could hurt Kaidou and take attacks from him due to his scaling to Zoro, but how do the others hurt him (outside of Queen's lasers and viruses perhaps)?
 
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I suppose you can argue that King could hurt Kaidou and take attacks from him due to his scaling to Zoro, but how do the others hurt him (outside of Queen's lasers and viruses perhaps)?
Same way the Scabbards did.

But other than that, Apoo should have some duraneg, like Killer's sonic waves, and Hawkins could hypothetically damage transfer if Kaidou ran out of Haki.
 
I mean it's possible, because he has hax like lasers and what not, but none of his more normal stuff like his sword or gun could scratch him
 
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