DaMonkeMan
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Why is this relevant? Doesn't mean any of the BPs could hurt him besides maybe Jack who scales to the Scabbards
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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He doesn’t need to dodge. Doffy can parasite multiple people at once. He can literally, first move, completely immobilize every fighter in his crew with even a chance to damage him.
which he’d likely use pretty quickly because he’d already know which of his crewmates are a threat.
wasn’t accounting for Gas Masks tbh. Though Krieg would mid diff him in a 1v1.
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Some of the tobiroppo could possibly dmg him too.
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Apoo has sound hax, and X Drake clashed with Base Zoro and Guernica.
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Kaido soloing his crew being a contentious take is crazy to me tbh.
There is less than 5 people in his entire crew that can even bypass his scales. And of those there’s only like…two or three that Kaido can’t wipe with his first few AOE attacks.
Queen and King get outlasted and bonked. Jack gets murked in the crossfire or something.
There is less than 5 people in his entire crew that can even bypass his scales. And of those there’s only like…two or three that Kaido can’t wipe with his first few AOE attacks.
Queen and King get outlasted and bonked. Jack gets murked in the crossfire or something.
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DaMonkeMan
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I seriously doubt it
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Yall are insane, 2 pages for the hour I was gone
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I mean who’s who could 1v1 jinbei, ulti fought luffy who needed gear 4th to put her down also she clashed with yamato, xdrake could clash with yamtao, zoro, and, guernica. The rest of them are honestly bums maybe besides page one.
DaMonkeMan
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Jinbe can't hurt Kaidou and even if he could Jinbe beat the brakes off WsW when he got serious.
Luffy only needed G4 to break out of her grip, and Yamato blocked her attack, she didn't try to match it with her own attack or anything.
Base Yamato without Haki who gets mauled badly by Kaidou.
Zoro is fair I guess though he wasn't really trying
Guernica doesn't scale to Kaidou plus we literally saw him die to the man on panel in 1042
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WW also had the fact that X Drake thought that if they teamed up, they could murk Queen, and Drake had definitely at least seen what Base, and maybe Full Zoan, Queen was up to, so WW isn't getting fodderized by regular attacks from Queen, and is maybe comparable to Drake. This... admittedly doesn't mean much, but at least he could maybe scratch Kaidou with his Rokushiki?
This means Haki G3 wouldn't work
That was Haki attacks from a Hybrid Kaidou, and Guernica just let him do that shit because he's stupid or something. And Guernica still managed to get a picture of Gear 5th, so... I don't exactly think he was dead.
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If Kaido fights the Beasts the same way he fought with the Alliance then it's a pretty fair fight as he won't pull his best cards at the start.
Jack and weaker would be able to withstand a few serious attacks from Base Kaido at best.
Queen would, for obvious reasons, be more effective fighting from afar but he'd be able to withstand a few hits from Hybrid Kaido before going completely out (unless Kaido goes for Hybrid Hao Thunder Bagua or other such attack to insta KO Queen).
King and Yamato can withstand a lot more damage than Queen but simply can't cause much meaningful damage, specially King as Kaido's heat resistance should be way better than what he can use and Yamato... we saw what Yamato can do already, Kaido needs to pull Hybrid Hao or Yamato can deal damage to him.
Jack and weaker would be able to withstand a few serious attacks from Base Kaido at best.
Queen would, for obvious reasons, be more effective fighting from afar but he'd be able to withstand a few hits from Hybrid Kaido before going completely out (unless Kaido goes for Hybrid Hao Thunder Bagua or other such attack to insta KO Queen).
King and Yamato can withstand a lot more damage than Queen but simply can't cause much meaningful damage, specially King as Kaido's heat resistance should be way better than what he can use and Yamato... we saw what Yamato can do already, Kaido needs to pull Hybrid Hao or Yamato can deal damage to him.
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Assuming it's being used by a God-Tier, and including the amps the DFs provide, and presuming we're also applying day-to-day stuff:
1. Nika
2. Soul
3. Shadow
4. Op
5. Age
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The Beast Pirates thing seems really debatable and honestly, we don't know a lot about how they work together(Albeit I think it would be really funny if Queen just mummified and Ice Oni'd a bunch of guys and had them jump Kaidou and try to take his weapon). I really want to know why people think Luffy can stomp the rest of his crew, who actually do work together like a trained unit(Plus they have the Grand Fleet as backup, but we can leave that aside).
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Why would Yamato be included in the Beast Pirates? He’s much more of an unwilling captive than an actual member of the organization.
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Yamato was a Beast Pirate, albeit in name only, until the Raid, just like Drake.
DaMonkeMan
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I take it as Guernica knowing there was no escape from Kaidou's wrath in that moment and thus he just stood there and let it end quickly.WW also had the fact that X Drake thought that if they teamed up, they could murk Queen, and Drake had definitely at least seen what Base, and maybe Full Zoan, Queen was up to, so WW isn't getting fodderized by regular attacks from Queen, and is maybe comparable to Drake. This... admittedly doesn't mean much, but at least he could maybe scratch Kaidou with his Rokushiki?
This means Haki G3 wouldn't work
That was Haki attacks from a Hybrid Kaidou, and Guernica just let him do that shit because he's stupid or something. And Guernica still managed to get a picture of Gear 5th, so... I don't exactly think he was dead.
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mirror mirror fruit underrated
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Jack > Yamato confirmed?
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I loved when Jack used ACoC and his Mythical Zoan
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Jack is great, but he's barely better than the rest of the crew
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Truly the moment of all time. I also loved when he used his named attacks
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Sure
Absolutely
Based on feats they're really close because of Sanji's Egghead performance, but I'm still going to give it to Zoro because I don't see any real way he doesn't beat Sanji.
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I mostly agree with you, but I really don't think his laser feats work, because I don't think those things have direct AP, rather than just heat.
DaMonkeMan
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Real
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Considering they clashed evenly with Snakeman, idk about it being only heat.
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Haven't we seen he straight up exploding things with his lasers? Unless he has two types of lasers, they seem to have AP and heat as these aren't mutually exclusive (and I think technically speaking heat itself counts as a type of AP/energy).
DaMonkeMan
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Lasers are weird in OP. Franky's RB tore a hole through a wall that Sanji couldn't break though and Saturn as well but didn't vaporize Sasaki and a Number.
DaMonkeMan
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Not gonna lie little bro's closer to Drake and WsW (strongest Tobiroppo but still) than Queen and King
DaMonkeMan
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I'll just make a tier list and you can see there
DaMonkeMan
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Hm.. Should I put Midd above Jack on my tier list?
On one hand his AP isn't atrocious with his metal or anything, but I can't say the same for his speed and what not.
Plus his metal seems like it's easy to cut apart
On one hand his AP isn't atrocious with his metal or anything, but I can't say the same for his speed and what not.
Plus his metal seems like it's easy to cut apart
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Kid is 100% above Jack what-
Fighting, tanking hits from, and damaging Soul-Amped Big Mom is far better than anything Jack has done. On top of being leagues more versatile. Anyone Jack can beat, Kid beats with lower difficulty, without exception.
Fighting, tanking hits from, and damaging Soul-Amped Big Mom is far better than anything Jack has done. On top of being leagues more versatile. Anyone Jack can beat, Kid beats with lower difficulty, without exception.
