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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Eseseso said:
1. G5 ate the same Shuron Hakke Super Hybrid Ragnarok attack that nearly took out G4 Luffy (he struggled to keep the air in his body).
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Kaido never used Ragnarok on G4th. He wasn't neither drunk nor in super hybrid when he hit G5th with Ragnarok. But he did use both of those powerups vs Boundman when hit him with Bellow Bagua
Eseseso said:
2. IMO this wiki overhypes Over-Kong Gun, it knocked Kaido out for like 2 seconds before he went Super Hybrid.
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Not only that, but Kaido had to deal with a Blast Breath exploding inside his mouth too.
 
KingTempest said:
Gear 3rd isn't natural. Neither is Gear 2nd.
His Gears specifically bring his strength above its natural limits.
You need to remember that Luffy's gears is a luffy specific invention that he made to surpass his body. Turning his body into a steam engine is not natural, nor is blowing air through rubber bones.

Bringing it greater physical strength means giving the regular state greater physical strength
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Even taking all that

He's still got "greater strength" than his base. I'm not arguing for the G4 comparaison, but I am disagreeing with G5=base at its starting point.
 
Excluding Luffy, how would you guys rank the straw hats in terms of stupidity (ignore combat smarts, just day to day smarts)?
 
SnookB said:
Even taking all that

He's still got "greater strength" than his base. I'm not arguing for the G4 comparaison, but I am disagreeing with G5=base at its starting point.
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I didn't intend to say G5th = base. I intended to say G5th had an inferior performance to the higher forms.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Excluding Luffy, how would you guys rank the straw hats in terms of stupidity (ignore combat smarts, just day to day smarts)?
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None of them except Robin and Jinbe are fully, all-around, intelligent, they just have that autism swag(me fr). My personal ranking:

Robin(Genuinely always knows what's up)
Jinbe(He's just like, a smart guy)
Franky(He knows tech, but he's a reckless idiot too)
Chopper(he's a good doctor, but he's baby)
Usopp(He's a coward, but he's genuinely a genius)
Nami(She's kind of just an above average type of person, mentally speaking)
Sanji(He's a good cook, and a good improv type guy, but he's also a reckless idiot and reduces his intelligence around women)
Zoro(You know Zoro)
Brook(literally brainless lol)
Luffy(Monkey D Luffy, gonna be king of the pirates)
 
SlendVeny said:
Robin(Genuinely always knows what's up)
Jinbe(He's just like, a smart guy)
Franky(He knows tech, but he's a reckless idiot too)
Chopper(he's a good doctor, but he's baby)
Usopp(He's a coward, but he's genuinely a genius)
Nami(She's kind of just an above average type of person, mentally speaking)
Sanji(He's a good cook, and a good improv type guy, but he's also a reckless idiot and reduces his intelligence around women)
Zoro(You know Zoro)
Brook(literally brainless lol)
Luffy(Monkey D Luffy, gonna be king of the pirates)
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Brook, Nami and sanji higher and we good
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
Man smoker can’t catch break, homie got his ass beat three times in one arc 💀💀💀
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-Chilling out at Loguetown.
-Everyone loves you, and no one can beat you. -You have a full crew of Marines, including your apprentice Tashigi, who is so strong, she could probably beat half the pirate captains in the East Blue, and is kinda like your little sister.
-An alliance of 2 notorious East Blue Pirates, some of the best in the sea, show up.
-They try to kill some guy, but he lives, and starts doing a Gold Roger bit. Lucky bastard.
-Beat both of them effortlessly.
-Go to attack this new crew of pirates, one of whom took down Tashigi like she wasn't a full threat.
-Take this guy out no diff, the whole crew can't hit you.
-The worst criminal on the planet shows up.
-The entire army instantly gets blown away.
-Dragon gives some bullshit speech, and you go on about chasing after this Luffy guy.
-Start going after Baroque Works
-Annihilate Mr 11's whole group.
-Go into a bar on some random island
-Portgas D Ace of the Whitebeard Pirates is just sitting there
-Fight him
-That Straw Hat guy shows up again and ruins it, and then sails away with the princess of Alabasta
-Go to a casino owned by Crocodile,
-The Straw Hat is right there
-Chase him
-Get caught by Crocodile
-Escape together
-This isn't the time, you can't arrest him right now. Let him go.
-Show up to the Marineford War. That Ace guy is gonna die, and you hate him.
-The Straw Hat shows up AGAIN. Both those crazy strong guys were related to him, you guess.
-Beat him AGAIN, even with his crazy red skin super speed thing- Wait, is he Rock Lee?
-Boa Hancock kicks you. Huh, I guess she has some Armament Haki. WAIT, SHE'S ON YOUR SIDE! WHY IS SHE PROTECTING HIM??
-She breaks your weapon in half.
-Sailing around, head to Punk Hazard. There's a distress signal coming from- IS THAT THE STRAW HAT AGAIN???
-Huh, Law is there. WHY IS LAW THERE?!
-He annihilates your whole crew, rips out your heart, and swaps everyone's bodies, it's really gross for you.
-Try to kill Luffy
-He just laughs at you, then uses his Rock Lee Fifth Gate powers to beat you up.
-Caesar shows up and knocks you unconscious.
-Vergo shows up.
-He's clearly a traitor, you guess.
-He beats you up.
-Doflamingo shows up.
-He beats you up in one hit, and you fall offscreen.
-Maybe fading into obscurity is ok.
 
SlendVeny said:
-Chilling out at Loguetown.
-Everyone loves you, and no one can beat you. -You have a full crew of Marines, including your apprentice Tashigi, who is so strong, she could probably beat half the pirate captains in the East Blue, and is kinda like your little sister.
-An alliance of 2 notorious East Blue Pirates, some of the best in the sea, show up.
-They try to kill some guy, but he lives, and starts doing a Gold Roger bit. Lucky bastard.
-Beat both of them effortlessly.
-Go to attack this new crew of pirates, one of whom took down Tashigi like she wasn't a full threat.
-Take this guy out no diff, the whole crew can't hit you.
-The worst criminal on the planet shows up.
-The entire army instantly gets blown away.
-Dragon gives some bullshit speech, and you go on about chasing after this Luffy guy.
-Start going after Baroque Works
-Annihilate Mr 11's whole group.
-Go into a bar on some random island
-Portgas D Ace of the Whitebeard Pirates is just sitting there
-Fight him
-That Straw Hat guy shows up again and ruins it, and then sails away with the princess of Alabasta
-Go to a casino owned by Crocodile,
-The Straw Hat is right there
-Chase him
-Get caught by Crocodile
-Escape together
-This isn't the time, you can't arrest him right now. Let him go.
-Show up to the Marineford War. That Ace guy is gonna die, and you hate him.
-The Straw Hat shows up AGAIN. Both those crazy strong guys were related to him, you guess.
-Beat him AGAIN, even with his crazy red skin super speed thing- Wait, is he Rock Lee?
-Boa Hancock kicks you. Huh, I guess she has some Armament Haki. WAIT, SHE'S ON YOUR SIDE! WHY IS SHE PROTECTING HIM??
-She breaks your weapon in half.
-Sailing around, head to Punk Hazard. There's a distress signal coming from- IS THAT THE STRAW HAT AGAIN???
-Huh, Law is there. WHY IS LAW THERE?!
-He annihilates your whole crew, rips out your heart, and swaps everyone's bodies, it's really gross for you.
-Try to kill Luffy
-He just laughs at you, then uses his Rock Lee Fifth Gate powers to beat you up.
-Caesar shows up and knocks you unconscious.
-Vergo shows up.
-He's clearly a traitor, you guess.
-He beats you up.
-Doflamingo shows up.
-He beats you up in one hit, and you fall offscreen.
-Maybe fading into obscurity is ok.
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When was the last time he showed up? 8-9 years ago????
 
XDragnoir said:
Something I few like adding, is that Snakeman is weaker than G3, in case you didn't know, so bringing it up doesn't add to "G5 is > Boundman".
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I wouldn't say G2 is a bit below Snakeman (at least during Whole Cake), but I do agree that Snakeman isn't necessarily as strong as G3, especially since Luffy's forms all have their own varieties of techniques. It was just supporting evidence.
 
In the Stampede Movie, how would the Bullet vs Worst Gen fight have gone if they had Law and Zoro in good condition with them? What if they had their full crews in good condition? At what point is he forced to use his DF powers to win?
 
SlendVeny said:
I'm putting together a CRT for some lesser characters who have a bit of a connection.
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vsbattles.com

Minor Impel Down Boiz CRT

Scans are gonna be a little bad, apologies in advance. Shiryu: -He's on the #2 cover, we all know this by now, and despite not being superior to Aokiji, he should be better than Jesus Burgess, who is 6-B in terms of Durability for tanking part of Sengoku's shockwave, which Shiryu also did, and...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Tetsucabrah said:
we have Oden losing to both Zoro and King on his profile.
The Zoro wank is off the charts on this site.
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We got Kizaru and Kuzan losing to King but King has an Inconclusive with Marco🗿 how tf that makes sense idk. And also King has a lose to Sanji and Law but not to Kizaru or Kuzan... so that means Sanji > Kizaru & Kuzan?😭. Man Oden also having a L to King and Zoro is ridiculous...
 
Eminiteable said:
You're not allowed to talk
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What the.....😭😭
 
Darkvie123 said:
We got Kizaru and Kuzan losing to King but King has an Inconclusive with Marco🗿 how tf that makes sense idk. And also King has a lose to Sanji and Law but not to Kizaru or Kuzan... so that means Sanji > Kizaru & Kuzan?😭. Man Oden also having a L to King and Zoro is ridiculous...
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It's not that I disagree with you, but bruh how many times have you said this already? Atp go to the match removal thread or sth.
 
Deceived3596 said:
W opinion.

People trash that arc when it's one of the most important and well crafted story arc's Oda has ever made. I understand how people can hate Oda's paneling and the gigantic amount of text dumps he does, because I hate it as well. But getting past those issues, you can see just how well done the arc actually is.
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Crazy how u guys praise Fishman Island but sleep on Skypiea
 
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