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What, it is spelled wrong?
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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No. He's matching Enma Unleashed Zoro.
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Neutral on that, but either way, let's analyze the fight:
Lucci's advantages:
- Equal in strength in Hybrid (w/ Rokushiki), and stronger by a sizable extent with Awakening and especially Awakened Rokushiki
- Matches King's speed in Base and exceeds it with Hybrid and above by a pretty good margin.
- Better Buso
- Awakened Form can tank virtually all of King's hits, especially with Buso and Tekkai.
- Rokugan dura neg.
King's advantages:
- Range
- Durability
- Can badly hurt Lucci with Jackpot
Awakened Lucci uses his superior speed to get in close and use Rokugan, or King has his in-story PIS and drops the flames to get the speed advantage (although Lucci in Awakening is likely still faster), letting Lucci beat him down.
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Lucci beats all of them.
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Yup, but Mitch and King are gonna treat me like I'm the fool for saying that
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What?
King is durable enough to tank his Rokougan. His internals are equally durable via feats.
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I thought KT agreed with youYup, but Mitch and King are gonna treat me like I'm the fool for saying that
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Hybrid Rokushiki Lucci is comparable to no-Hao G4, who could hurt Dragon Kaido.
Awakened Rokushiki > Hybrid Rokushiki
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Only if Lucci stays in base and doesn't use Buso.
I think people give way too much attention to the fact it "would have killed Zoro" and forget that Buso Zoro took it fine.
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"This the only verse where people will see a clear effect and say "nah bro""
This is what he said, and I'm assuming he's referencing the spark at the final panel. I'm guessing he's talking about me saying no KoH, just Enma Unleashed.
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He said that he only cared about that last panel where Zoro started to use Hao Infusion i'm pretty sure
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What does that have to do with anything
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When the 2 of them were battering S-Bear together, Hybrid Lucci's Shigan: Yellow Lotus was knocking him back as much as No-Hao Luffy's Kong Organ Gun, and they were portrayed as comparable.
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Sorry, meant to say that Awakened Rokugan is likely better than Hybrid Rokugan.
Eminiteable
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Kachon is right, Kachon FRA
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Make them equal, and make Kaidou's durability scale to both combined.
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We use it IIRC for Base Wano Chopper, and IMO it is usable unless contradicted otherwise in-story.
Eminiteable
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We use that for genuine combined attacks and iirc examples like the ones you're using were specifically rejected in the same thread it got accepted.
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What do y'all think he's wanted for?
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I mean, his epithet of Massacre Soldier isn't subtle. Plus being an accomplice in Kidd's crimes.What do y'all think he's wanted for?
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Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Yamato
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Yamato
-Stamina: Yamato
-Endurance: Yamato
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Yamato
-Kenbun: Yamato
-Buso: Even
-Hao: Yamato
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Yamato
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Sanji
-Speed: Sanji
-LS: Sanji
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Sanji
-Skill: Sanji
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Sanji
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Hattori
Lucci odds: 52.5%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Marco
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Marco
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Marco
-DF Powers: Marco
-Kenbun: Marco
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Hattori
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: King
-Speed: King
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: King
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: King
-Equipment: King
A couple other characters that can hold their own:
Law:
Lucci odds: 45%
-AP: Law
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Law
-Stamina: Law
-Endurance: Law
-Skill: Law
-DF Powers: Law
-Kenbun: Law
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Law
Kid:
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Kid
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Kid
-Stamina: Kid
-Endurance: Kid
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Kid
-Kenbun: Kid
-Buso: Lucci
-Hao: Kid
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Kid
Jinbe:
Lucci odds: 70%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Jinbe
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Jinbe
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Jinbe
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Even
-Equipment: Hattori
Queen:
Lucci odds: 65%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Queen
-Endurance: Queen
-Skill: Queen
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Even
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Even
-Equipment: Queen
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Being a killerWhat do y'all think he's wanted for?
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He at least beats Buggy, now come on
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Don't disrespect Buggy D. Clown, strongest Yonko
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Chopper nd Luffy hit a dude with 2 equal blows
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Which is basically what Lucci and Luffy did to S-Bear. The last punch each of them does is shown to do an equal amount of "damage" to S-Bear.
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There's a different between attacking in tandem and a combined attack.
I genuinely don't care about Sanji scaling to Zoro or vice versa. They're both peak regardless and can pack up anybody when fighting together.
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I’m almost done with fishman island(pretty great) but I’m still trying to process the fact that this big mom chick just ate her own dudes
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Massive respect for Nami in this scene. Really shows her maturity years later.
I think sanji is still recovering from being in that island for 2 years but idk
Also I really love Jimbe man. You can tell he's been holding himself responsible for all that Arlong had done, tarnishing the Fishmen's name as well as the terror they caused in the sea.
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Garp is him
