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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

No. He's matching Enma Unleashed Zoro.
Neutral on that, but either way, let's analyze the fight:

Lucci's advantages:
  • Equal in strength in Hybrid (w/ Rokushiki), and stronger by a sizable extent with Awakening and especially Awakened Rokushiki
  • Matches King's speed in Base and exceeds it with Hybrid and above by a pretty good margin.
  • Better Buso
  • Awakened Form can tank virtually all of King's hits, especially with Buso and Tekkai.
  • Rokugan dura neg.

King's advantages:
  • Range
  • Durability
  • Can badly hurt Lucci with Jackpot

Awakened Lucci uses his superior speed to get in close and use Rokugan, or King has his in-story PIS and drops the flames to get the speed advantage (although Lucci in Awakening is likely still faster), letting Lucci beat him down.
 
I thought KT agreed with you
"This the only verse where people will see a clear effect and say "nah bro""

This is what he said, and I'm assuming he's referencing the spark at the final panel. I'm guessing he's talking about me saying no KoH, just Enma Unleashed.
 
"This the only verse where people will see a clear effect and say "nah bro""

This is what he said, and I'm assuming he's referencing the spark at the final panel. I'm guessing he's talking about me saying no KoH, just Enma Unleashed.
He said that he only cared about that last panel where Zoro started to use Hao Infusion i'm pretty sure
 
Scaling knockback now?

"Portrayed as comparable" is completely subjective and based on nothing.

By that logic, Hao Infusion SNakeman Luffy and Base Yamato are relative to each other as well.
We use it IIRC for Base Wano Chopper, and IMO it is usable unless contradicted otherwise in-story.

For example, if Sanji and Zoro used a combined attack, Sanji obviously wouldn't scale since we all know Zoro claps.
 
We use it IIRC for Base Wano Chopper, and IMO it is usable unless contradicted otherwise in-story.

For example, if Sanji and Zoro used a combined attack, Sanji obviously wouldn't scale since we all know Zoro claps.
We use that for genuine combined attacks and iirc examples like the ones you're using were specifically rejected in the same thread it got accepted.
 
What do y'all think he's wanted for?
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With the new Awakened Lucci scaling, who would now win between Awakened Lucci against:

Yamato
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Yamato
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Yamato
-Stamina: Yamato
-Endurance: Yamato
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Yamato
-Kenbun: Yamato
-Buso: Even
-Hao: Yamato
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Yamato
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Sanji
-Speed: Sanji
-LS: Sanji
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Sanji
-Skill: Sanji
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Sanji
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Hattori
Lucci odds: 52.5%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Marco
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Marco
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Marco
-DF Powers: Marco
-Kenbun: Marco
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Hattori
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: King
-Speed: King
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Lucci
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: King
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: King
-Equipment: King







A couple other characters that can hold their own:

Law:
Lucci odds: 45%
-AP: Law
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Law
-Stamina: Law
-Endurance: Law
-Skill: Law
-DF Powers: Law
-Kenbun: Law
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Law

Kid:
Lucci odds: 55%
-AP: Kid
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Kid
-Stamina: Kid
-Endurance: Kid
-Skill: Lucci
-DF Powers: Kid
-Kenbun: Kid
-Buso: Lucci
-Hao: Kid
-Misc Hax: Lucci
-Equipment: Kid

Jinbe:
Lucci odds: 70%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Jinbe
-Endurance: Lucci
-Skill: Jinbe
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Jinbe
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Even
-Equipment: Hattori

Queen:
Lucci odds: 65%
-AP: Lucci
-Dura: Lucci
-Speed: Lucci
-LS: Lucci
-Stamina: Queen
-Endurance: Queen
-Skill: Queen
-DF Powers: Lucci
-Kenbun: Even
-Buso: Even
-Hao: N/A
-Misc Hax: Even
-Equipment: Queen
 
We use it IIRC for Base Wano Chopper, and IMO it is usable unless contradicted otherwise in-story.
There's a different between attacking in tandem and a combined attack.
For example, if Sanji and Zoro used a combined attack, Sanji obviously wouldn't scale since we all know Zoro claps.
I genuinely don't care about Sanji scaling to Zoro or vice versa. They're both peak regardless and can pack up anybody when fighting together.
 
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I think sanji is still recovering from being in that island for 2 years but idk 😅
Massive respect for Nami in this scene. Really shows her maturity years later.

Also I really love Jimbe man. You can tell he's been holding himself responsible for all that Arlong had done, tarnishing the Fishmen's name as well as the terror they caused in the sea.
 
Massive respect for Nami in this scene. Really shows her maturity years later.

Also I really love Jimbe man. You can tell he's been holding himself responsible for all that Arlong had done, tarnishing the Fishmen's name as well as the terror they caused in the sea.
Yes. Agreed. 🙏🙂
 
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