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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

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And hes still below Kata.... Onigashima Raid Jinbe is High 7A and higher while angry. Kata is Island with Awakening. He slaps the fish
Yes, but the scaling is:

Angry Jinbe(no Haki) oneshotted WW > Calm Buso Jinbe > Zoan WW > Calm Base Jinbe > WCI Base Jinbe. He's oneshotting the H7A guys while not underwater, and without using Haki. Katakuri has nothing on my mans.
 
 
Yes, but the scaling is:

Angry Jinbe(no Haki) oneshotted WW > Calm Buso Jinbe > Zoan WW > Calm Base Jinbe > WCI Base Jinbe. He's oneshotting the H7A guys while not underwater, and without using Haki. Katakuri has nothing on my mans.
Katakuri bury him alive bro what? Katakuri has superior Buso, CoO with FS, Range, Awakening would literally finish Jinbe and bury him just like he burried Luffy for some minutes but Jinbe would die via suffocation. Also Jinbe ain't faster either so he wont counter Kata's FS. He also doesnt have adaptation like Luffy to get stronger and beat Kata. The guy who's Buso bleeded from A Tobbi Roppo is getting beaten by Kata in a bad way
 
Katakuri bury him alive bro what? Katakuri has superior Buso, CoO with FS, Range, Awakening would literally finish Jinbe and bury him just like he burried Luffy for some minutes but Jinbe would die via suffocation. Also Jinbe ain't faster either so he wont counter Kata's FS. He also doesnt have adaptation like Luffy to get stronger and beat Kata. The guy who's Buso bleeded from A Tobbi Roppo is getting beaten by Kata in a bad way
Ok, but what I am trying to say is that enraged Jinbe with no amps can oneshot the H7A dudes, and enraged Haki Jinbe would knock Katakuri out with one hit. Also, Jinbe knows and can use every one of his weaknesses.
 
Regarding One Piece's discussion rules, for real this time:
  • Don't create threads to upgrade One Piece, based on Chinjao supposedly splitting an ice continent, until the story provides us with more evidence, and avoid using statements only to support it.
I couldn't find the thread where this rule was accepted, only the revision at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=4573302&oldid=4570635, and it seems outdated, as it's old, unsourced, and a calc for this feat's high-end only got 7-A, which wouldn't be an upgrade because Chinjao's weakest key is already 7-A+, so I would contend that we should remove it.
  • Please do not try to scale Zoan Queen's attack potency to Big Mom by using their fight at Udon, as Queen did not inflict any real damage to Big Mom and was terrified that she would kill him. Not to mention that Big Mom only collapsed from exhaustion and not from Queen's Brachio Bomber.
This rule was added in https://vsbattles.com/threads/requesting-a-discussion-rule-for-an-op-topic.153744/ at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=8002696&oldid=7999443. It's fine, but I find it quite poorly formatted and have rewritten it for clarity:
Do not try to scale Zoan Queen to Big Mom based on their fight at Udon, as this [[vsforum:threads/139590|argument]] [[vsforum:threads/150555|has]] [[vsforum:threads/152963|repeatedly]] [[vsforum:threads/153136|failed]]. Queen failed to inflict substantial damage on Big Mom, who only fainted against him because she was hungry, tired, and recently recovered from amnesia; he was terrified that she would kill him.
@Elizhaa @Antvasima @DarkDragonMedeus @DemonGodMitchAubin What do you think about this?
 
Regarding One Piece's discussion rules, for real this time:

I couldn't find the thread where this rule was accepted, only the revision at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=4573302&oldid=4570635, and it seems outdated, as it's old, unsourced, and a calc for this feat's high-end only got 7-A, which wouldn't be an upgrade because Chinjao's weakest key is already 7-A+, so I would contend that we should remove it.

This rule was added in https://vsbattles.com/threads/requesting-a-discussion-rule-for-an-op-topic.153744/ at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=8002696&oldid=7999443. It's fine, but I find it quite poorly formatted and have rewritten it for clarity:

@Elizhaa @Antvasima @DarkDragonMedeus @DemonGodMitchAubin What do you think about this?
As the guy who made the original rule I think it's a pretty good rewrite.
 
@IdiosyncraticLawyer; the issue was more with people taking the title "Ice Continent" as a justifications for upgrades or calcs that were continuously. rejected. That part at least isn't outdated.
Okay, then I'll do a rewrite for that rule as well, but could you get some people to evaluate the calc I linked? Also, I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me to the thread that added this rule.
 
I wish WW had fought X Drake for like, even a few seconds, that would put more weight behind why Drake thought the two of them together could beat Queen.
 
Do you still wank Sabo?
I fuc king love Sabo so yes I wank him
Also Casual Sabo with the Mera and his pipe > Enraged Burgess with Armament and his elbow Shockwave shit


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Sabo was completely clean after this fight and Burgess was nearly dead with half of his face fuc ked up.
Sabo is HIM
 
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Or maybe Burgess just isn't him
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Marco and the rest of WB's crew besides Thatch and Ace got clapped by BB and his goons (though Jozu was down an arm I think).
BB led an ambush on Baltigo, and despite them having Kuzan with them, they still failed to kill or capture any revolutionaries.
Not trying to say you downplay Sabo, but the mfs who do will look like fools when him and Dragon show up and show out in the final war.
 
Possibly. We know him joining and the Payback War were both a year ago in terms of the in verse timeline.
Would kind of make sense cause there's no way BB soloed them, his crew full of bums besides Burgess and Lafitte, lol.
Pizarro got his hand fu cked up bad by Koby, and Shiryu got downed by old weakened Garp with no Haki, I'm willing to bet Vista or Jozu could slam them in a fight.
So yeah maybe Kuzan was there, cause otherwise their victory doesn't make much sense unless Blackbeard just went demon mode and showed them what he showed Shanks years ago.
 
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