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He didn't do that with his physical strength
We're talking about him overpowering kizaru here...
His physical body's attacks (not flame based attacks) scale to base queen
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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We're talking about him overpowering kizaru here...
His physical body's attacks (not flame based attacks) scale to base queen
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Still tanked it even if it did hurt him. His durability would still scale to it
Ifrit jambe sanji > Diable jambe Sanji ~ Hybrid queen's durability > base queen ~ marco hybrid kick > marco base kick ~ kizaru's physical strength
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Human body or bird body?
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Hybrid body
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But not the wings?
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His foot was in hybrid
I dont think his wings are relevant as he didn't use them to attack queen
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Tanked but it put a visible scar on his face.
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Gash/Wound not scar. We know scars dont heal even for ancient zoans.
And I already acknowledged that marco scales to his durability hence why I said marco ~ base queen's durability
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I don't understand what you're trying to say
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Diable Jambe Sanji > Vinskoke amped Mech Arm > Hybrid Queen's Durability
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Tbf, I'm kinda piggybacking off the pre Exo Base Sanji agenda to boost no sword King (like punches and kicks) since the 2 of them matched each other.
So you piggybacking off King's agenda is a fair "trade".
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I don't understand.
Character A overpowers Character B
Character C shows greater strength than Character A
But then you use Character B to say Character A > Character C?
That's not how it works. This is literally basic scaling
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Don't get it twisted though, Sanji > KingMe and Kachon discussing the trade of King agendas and Sanji agendas like gentlemen:
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As of now I'm neutral, but Egghead will probably prove you correct.
But for now, let's just sip tea and discuss agendas like gentlemen.
If it makes you feel better, our recent chats about Sanji's power and Queen's power have made me more open to the suggestion.
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King agenda? Is part of this "agenda" saying King never used Busōshoku Haki against Marco
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King 1v1 with Marco happened silmutanously with Queen vs Chopper which lasted 30 minutes not 20 like King's page says.
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I just assumed King and Marco fought 20 minutes.
Whether they fought 20 or 30 minutes changes nothing, but why not just be safe and use the lower option?
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What do you mean by safe? They canonically fought for 30+ minutes.
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We apparently aren't certain whether they fought for 20 minutes or 30+ minutes.
Whatever it is, it doesn't really change much.
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Chopper would've been turned into fried tanuki by King.
Eminiteable
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They fought for over 30 minutes, idk where you're getting 20 minutes from.
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Ok then, I'll make the change to the profile.
Makes no difference to me.
Either way, flying dinosaur fought big bird off-screen for a decent bit.
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IIRC King fought Marco in 1v1 for 20 minutes, not including the time when he and Queen fought Marco together.
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No, basic scaling is Character A having greater feats against Character B than Character C ( and just greater feats in general ), and thus Character A > Character C.
Eminiteable
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Doesn't really answer where you're getting that from.
What we do know is MP Chopper fought Queen 1v1 for over 20 minutes while Sanji was shown fighting Queen for the remaining time Chopper's form had left, either way the off-screen King Vs Marco fight still lasted over 30 minutes.
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Whatever, I changed King's profile accordingly, so it's 30 minutes instead of 20.
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kid named kizaru can get stronger
DaMonkeMan
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Your problem isn't Sanji being the 3rd fastest ( TECHNICALLY true but Zoro is still over him, it's just that Lucci hasn't really proven the same ) or what not but that Kizaru is assumed to never get stronger?
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What?
DaMonkeMan
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-Get extreme diffed by someone
-They become an Emperor and happen to be on the same island as you
-Instantly try to fight them and get low diffed
"I refuthe to athept Thraw Hat ath an emperor!!11"
-Then beg him to save you from the Seraphim while you're handcuffed ( imagine not having internal destruction in 2023 and your fans still call you Yonko level for one clash )
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Rob Lucci in awakened form rolling up in the anime just to go "Eye refuthe to ackthept your thtatuth, you rubber bitth"-Instantly try to fight them and get low diffed
"I refuthe to athept Thraw Hat ath an emperor!!11"
Idk, the way I wrote it sounds like a regular lisp, but I was going for the neckbeard lisp.
DaMonkeMan
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But then again, people like Sanji don't have advanced Haki at all either and he's one of the strongest YC2.
So I suppose it ain't that bad.
Still a skill issue though
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I would legit respect Lucci so much more of he just said "yeah but have you considered it would be really funny?"
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I mean, the gap between YC2 and YC1 is rather small, ngl.
Queen is not far behind King at their peak forms (King has the one-shots but Queen has dura neg).
WB's crew had Jozu and Vista.
