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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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No. It's just that the percentage is on a tank of green blood that is clearly not full and we know that instead of normal blood S-Shark has green blood, so deductive reasoning led me to this conclusion
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My eyes just witnessed someone saying Sanji with IJ beats Big Mom. Enough internet for today
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We were discussing something in a thread, so lets clear this here, should be quick enough.
Do we split Kenbu in layers the same way we do with Buso? Or is everyone in any given stage do the same things?
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I guess this is the time to ask what exactly changed from the last time we had a KingvsSanji thread that warranted a new one
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Mentioned it in the OP.
DaMonkeMan
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Yeah but you just say they had AP and profile revisions.
I don't remember the AP revisions nor the profile ones besides the Stamina revision but that wouldn't change much.
I don't remember the AP revisions nor the profile ones besides the Stamina revision but that wouldn't change much.
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Before King was 1.032 petatons and Sanji was 760 teratons. Now they scale to the same AP value with the only difference being scaling chains.
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Link the CRT?
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You can find it
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I think Kachon is referring to how now they both scale to 1.5 exatons, making the AP gap notably smaller.
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Yee kinda
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That's potency, not really layers. Similar to how people like the Scabbards have greater usage of Buso than characters like Jinbe, being able to use emission, but still have far less layers.
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.... Thats literally the same as arm haki tho
And if we go into precog it becomes layers kinda
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Which is also far less potency
DaMonkeMan
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So I was right, King seemingly has better Observation than Queen.
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What?
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Databook
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Precog 1, know 1.3 seconds into the future.. Precog 2, know 2 seconds into the future... Precog 2 will null the precog 1 making it into a type of layer
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That's not layers MOL.
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Hell no
Layers is when you can affect one thing when others can't, like mind manipulating someone who resists mind manipulation
Buso has layers because superior buso's mechanics make it to where superior buso means superior layers. Can resist something that can affect something that can resist said thing to a weaker extent
Kenbun does not have layers
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This is not layers, this is just superior potency, not layers.
The precog isn't literally nullifying the other precog, it's just making it to where what you see has more options to shit on what they see
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Literally obs Haki..
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I think it's a matter of having more potent Observation than another.
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For example?
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When has observation haki sensed something that was unable to be sensed by someone else because of factors not including range, varying levels of stealth, or invisibility that couldn't be sensed
No, that's called "being more potent", not having more layers.
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DaMonkeMan
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Still should be on the page if it isn't already.
This all happened because these dodos think Queen and King have equal Observation even though King at least has feats with it.
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Nah but for real tho... Both obs Haki and arm haki acts as a layer to other haki's... That's why there are levels to both of them
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Don't drag KT into your bullshit.
King has no kenbun feats above that any other intermediate kenbun users has shown.
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That's Luffy sensing his emotion, as he has an affinity to that specific branch of Kenbun, rather than him sensing Rayleigh's presence.
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Because he couldn't sense his presence...
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About the quotes you used, it's true that range does increase but we don't have precise numbers for 99% of Kenbu users' range, i think Enel and his priests are the only ones with actual direct range statements and comparisons.
As for the power sensing, the only difference would be in versatility and that's it, it doesn't change anything else and much less gives it layers.
